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2019-11-22 00:25:26
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Hello everyone,
Thankfully, about a year ago my was constructively and clearly criticized enough to prevent long-term annoyances and to dare a fresh start. After some delays, here is my draft for the room layout; windows have not been drawn in yet, and so far hardly any furniture either. Since we have an appointment with the architect on Tuesday, drawing them in now would take too long to receive and consider possible suggestions beforehand. Please be understanding. In any case, a larger window front is planned in the area of the southwest-facing air space above the dining area.
Checklist:
Development plan/restrictions
Size of the plot including hinterland / former agricultural land (already demolished greenhouses) total 2800 sqm
Slope: the front 32m wide plot descends from left to right by a total of 1.60 m. Towards the back, the plot also slopes slightly downward; within the 15 m deep building window the terrain drops by about 60-80 cm.
Floor area ratio 0.4
Floor space index 0.8
Building window, building line and boundary: visible in the processed development plan excerpt, planned building outlines are marked in red. The entire orange area including the white-backed path on the right edge of the plot belongs to us. Below this path is a public sewer line which must not be built over. Towards this path, we must keep 2 meters distance with the residential building, or if a garage is placed there, 1 meter distance. The development plan for the hinterland construction was passed at our request (for later use, intended for children or a retirement bungalow).
Edge development: left (southwest) bungalow, which due to its higher location can cast wide shadows in winter. Behind this bungalow at our property boundary there is a garage and behind that a neighbor’s shed, which unfortunately also darkens our property when the sun is low. Right (northeast) is 1.5 stories built with a garage on the boundary to our path.
Number of stories: 2 full stories
Roof shape: any, preferably shed roof (a visible roof is planned above the upper floor)
Architectural style: any
Garden orientation: northwest
Builder’s requirements
Architectural style, roof shape, building type: preferably classic “old-fashioned cozy,” may also be somewhat playful and combined with modern elements
Number of people, age: 4 persons 42 + 43 + 2.5 + 0.5 (3rd child/foster child rather unlikely, but you never know)
Office: among other things for private documents, books, etc.
Overnight guests per year: so far max. 10 overnight stays per year
Open or closed architecture: preferably open
Conservative or modern construction method: both have pros/cons, gladly a mix
Open kitchen, kitchen island: preferably open with option to close if opinion changes, kitchen island gladly if space allows, but not required.
Number of dining seats: daily 4, with guests sometimes 12-18
Fireplace: not necessary
Music/stereo wall: not necessary, compact system with 2 small speakers should find space somewhere
Balcony, roof terrace: not necessary for cost reasons
Garage, carport: at least one double garage
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, gladly with reasons why this or that should or should not be: see below
House design
Who created the plan:
- Do-it-yourself rough draft with roomsketcher
- Price estimate according to architect/planner: unknown yet
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 550-600k € including incidental costs
Preferred heating technology: geothermal heat pump, deep borehole (or does anyone have positive experience with wood chips? I could get those very cheaply.)
Why an own floor plan instead of a complete architect’s work? Our architect is technically very good and at the same time a good business partner professionally. However, changing plans often takes quite a long time with him due to heavy workload. To be able to ideally start in spring, I gladly do some preliminary work for him in the hope that it will help.
We have placed the house "diagonally" in the building window so that it aligns flush with the diagonally shaped building window on the right edge mentioned above in the checklist. The house wall runs parallel to the right neighbor. The reason is that while we want to enjoy the southwest sun that shines towards us from the left neighbor's direction, we would like to turn somewhat away from the view from the street and neighboring houses opposite there. The second reason is that due to the long shadow cast in winter by our higher left neighbor, we want to build as far away as possible from him to let in a bit more sunshine through our windows. For this reason, I have also planned our garage detached from the house on the left southwest edge for brightness reasons; it should then be built as flat as possible and in winter not cause significantly more shadow than the neighboring buildings already do.
The terrace, which is openly visible from the street because of the gap between garage and house, should be closed off with a hedge.
I was inspired for my draft, among other things, by the floor plan of a used property we had looked at in the meantime. There, as an eye-catcher when entering, you looked at a tall plant that stretched up to the upper floor through a 1x1m ceiling opening next to the left end of the stairs. The consideration is to plan the ceiling opening large enough so that a vertical lift could be retrofitted there in old age. The gallery/air space in that house was positioned as in ours and we liked it. The vestibule should mainly prevent drafts since here the terrace door is often open as well. I first placed the wardrobe behind the vestibule, open to the living room, so that the door of the vestibule does not conflict with a possible elevator solution and the necessary movement space around it.
On the ground floor, next to the stairs (above them in the plan) a wall is drawn which I assume might be required as a load-bearing wall for structural reasons because of the large living-dining "hall." This wall continues into the basement and upper floor and also serves a practical purpose for room division.
In the upper floor, I positioned the dressing room between bedroom and bathroom and intentionally separated it again with a door from the bedroom. The reason is our current living experience where our bedroom is only separated from the bathroom by a thin wall and one still hears too many sounds from the bathroom even when the door is closed. I still consider the solution somewhat imperfect but do not want to make the air space too small either. The very large bed planned in the bedroom is to be a 2.70 m wide family bed. Space beside it is still a bit tight. If I put it opposite on the exterior wall, it would conflict with the desire for windows on the sunny side, wouldn’t it?
By the way, the air space is a longstanding wish that we do not want to do without entirely, even if this requires, for example, doors with good sound insulation in the children's rooms.
Since this is still only a half-finished draft of a room layout, I would be happy to receive critiques and ideas so that I can incorporate them at the beginning of the planning with the architect. We also want to save a few square meters if possible and sensible somewhere.
Many thanks in advance for all suggestions!




Thankfully, about a year ago my was constructively and clearly criticized enough to prevent long-term annoyances and to dare a fresh start. After some delays, here is my draft for the room layout; windows have not been drawn in yet, and so far hardly any furniture either. Since we have an appointment with the architect on Tuesday, drawing them in now would take too long to receive and consider possible suggestions beforehand. Please be understanding. In any case, a larger window front is planned in the area of the southwest-facing air space above the dining area.
Checklist:
Development plan/restrictions
Size of the plot including hinterland / former agricultural land (already demolished greenhouses) total 2800 sqm
Slope: the front 32m wide plot descends from left to right by a total of 1.60 m. Towards the back, the plot also slopes slightly downward; within the 15 m deep building window the terrain drops by about 60-80 cm.
Floor area ratio 0.4
Floor space index 0.8
Building window, building line and boundary: visible in the processed development plan excerpt, planned building outlines are marked in red. The entire orange area including the white-backed path on the right edge of the plot belongs to us. Below this path is a public sewer line which must not be built over. Towards this path, we must keep 2 meters distance with the residential building, or if a garage is placed there, 1 meter distance. The development plan for the hinterland construction was passed at our request (for later use, intended for children or a retirement bungalow).
Edge development: left (southwest) bungalow, which due to its higher location can cast wide shadows in winter. Behind this bungalow at our property boundary there is a garage and behind that a neighbor’s shed, which unfortunately also darkens our property when the sun is low. Right (northeast) is 1.5 stories built with a garage on the boundary to our path.
Number of stories: 2 full stories
Roof shape: any, preferably shed roof (a visible roof is planned above the upper floor)
Architectural style: any
Garden orientation: northwest
Builder’s requirements
Architectural style, roof shape, building type: preferably classic “old-fashioned cozy,” may also be somewhat playful and combined with modern elements
Number of people, age: 4 persons 42 + 43 + 2.5 + 0.5 (3rd child/foster child rather unlikely, but you never know)
Office: among other things for private documents, books, etc.
Overnight guests per year: so far max. 10 overnight stays per year
Open or closed architecture: preferably open
Conservative or modern construction method: both have pros/cons, gladly a mix
Open kitchen, kitchen island: preferably open with option to close if opinion changes, kitchen island gladly if space allows, but not required.
Number of dining seats: daily 4, with guests sometimes 12-18
Fireplace: not necessary
Music/stereo wall: not necessary, compact system with 2 small speakers should find space somewhere
Balcony, roof terrace: not necessary for cost reasons
Garage, carport: at least one double garage
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, gladly with reasons why this or that should or should not be: see below
House design
Who created the plan:
- Do-it-yourself rough draft with roomsketcher
- Price estimate according to architect/planner: unknown yet
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 550-600k € including incidental costs
Preferred heating technology: geothermal heat pump, deep borehole (or does anyone have positive experience with wood chips? I could get those very cheaply.)
Why an own floor plan instead of a complete architect’s work? Our architect is technically very good and at the same time a good business partner professionally. However, changing plans often takes quite a long time with him due to heavy workload. To be able to ideally start in spring, I gladly do some preliminary work for him in the hope that it will help.
We have placed the house "diagonally" in the building window so that it aligns flush with the diagonally shaped building window on the right edge mentioned above in the checklist. The house wall runs parallel to the right neighbor. The reason is that while we want to enjoy the southwest sun that shines towards us from the left neighbor's direction, we would like to turn somewhat away from the view from the street and neighboring houses opposite there. The second reason is that due to the long shadow cast in winter by our higher left neighbor, we want to build as far away as possible from him to let in a bit more sunshine through our windows. For this reason, I have also planned our garage detached from the house on the left southwest edge for brightness reasons; it should then be built as flat as possible and in winter not cause significantly more shadow than the neighboring buildings already do.
The terrace, which is openly visible from the street because of the gap between garage and house, should be closed off with a hedge.
I was inspired for my draft, among other things, by the floor plan of a used property we had looked at in the meantime. There, as an eye-catcher when entering, you looked at a tall plant that stretched up to the upper floor through a 1x1m ceiling opening next to the left end of the stairs. The consideration is to plan the ceiling opening large enough so that a vertical lift could be retrofitted there in old age. The gallery/air space in that house was positioned as in ours and we liked it. The vestibule should mainly prevent drafts since here the terrace door is often open as well. I first placed the wardrobe behind the vestibule, open to the living room, so that the door of the vestibule does not conflict with a possible elevator solution and the necessary movement space around it.
On the ground floor, next to the stairs (above them in the plan) a wall is drawn which I assume might be required as a load-bearing wall for structural reasons because of the large living-dining "hall." This wall continues into the basement and upper floor and also serves a practical purpose for room division.
In the upper floor, I positioned the dressing room between bedroom and bathroom and intentionally separated it again with a door from the bedroom. The reason is our current living experience where our bedroom is only separated from the bathroom by a thin wall and one still hears too many sounds from the bathroom even when the door is closed. I still consider the solution somewhat imperfect but do not want to make the air space too small either. The very large bed planned in the bedroom is to be a 2.70 m wide family bed. Space beside it is still a bit tight. If I put it opposite on the exterior wall, it would conflict with the desire for windows on the sunny side, wouldn’t it?
By the way, the air space is a longstanding wish that we do not want to do without entirely, even if this requires, for example, doors with good sound insulation in the children's rooms.
Since this is still only a half-finished draft of a room layout, I would be happy to receive critiques and ideas so that I can incorporate them at the beginning of the planning with the architect. We also want to save a few square meters if possible and sensible somewhere.
Many thanks in advance for all suggestions!