Planning floor plan / first draft for first feedback

  • Erstellt am 2014-03-30 01:03:11

LiquidSky

2014-03-30 01:03:11
  • #1
Hello,

I would appreciate feedback on the ideas.
Much is not yet finally drawn because I simply want to get initial feedback.

The planned house is to stand on a plot that slopes about 1m from north to south. However, we are only allowed to have the ground floor 30 cm above street level. The house must have a 40° gable roof. Two full floors would be possible. However, we are planning with 1.5 floors with a 1.50m high knee wall.
Later, two adults with two children are supposed to live in the house. I have not planned the upper floor yet because from my point of view the ground floor is more complicated and when that is done, the upper floor will come next.

The design is currently based on a 10x10m slab. Wall thicknesses might be added or the rooms might become slightly smaller.
The wall between the guest room and living room could possibly be moved along the yellow line. Just as the closet in the hallway could be moved under the stairs. The red/grey in the images is the placeholder for the fireplace.

I did everything on the computer because I can try variations faster here.

I look forward to your feedback and then plan to post the next steps here as well.

Best regards,
LiquidSky

 

toxicmolotof

2014-03-30 01:37:19
  • #2
Back to square one, do not withdraw 4,000 euros, but invest it and consult an architect with your ideas (as text, not image).

This will not work. The upper floor is missing, possibly the ground floor, supply shafts, and the actual walls.

And what is missing... is actually everything. This is not a design but rather material for the circular file.

Sorry, it's harsh, but it's the truth, as much as I regret it.
 

ypg

2014-03-30 11:51:24
  • #3
Door to the room ruins the living room -> no space for furniture. Door to the utility room too far away and misplaced in the kitchen. The correct thickness of the walls would result in a different floor plan... (then, for example, the living room would no longer be a living room, but a living hallway). I know it's fun to deal with, but professionals immediately take function, statics of both floors, and exterior views into account. Your "idea" can also be found plenty on the web if you enter floor plans town villa on Google. But they have correct dimensions and functioning walls, so take a look there :)
 

emer

2014-03-30 13:46:44
  • #4
On the topic: down is easier. My architect told me that it is easier to plan from top to bottom. :)

30cm with the ground floor above street level? You mean with the basement, right?

Silly question, but are you building in the commuter belt around Frankfurt am Main?
 

LiquidSky

2014-03-30 22:21:57
  • #5
Thank you for your comments!

I have to admit that the information from Toxicmolotow didn’t really help me.
But as info:
- we already went to an architect and expressed Budget and wishes
- according to his cost estimate, the design is clearly above our budget, but he said it was simply estimated with a very large buffer
- so the plan went to the authorities
- after a few weeks we had real offers for the plan and there was no buffer in the cost estimate, so the plan was unaffordable for us
--> result: several weeks planned, a withdrawn building application, some experience gained, but no affordable floor plan --- the next attempt I won’t do just as text but with some concrete ideas

- I will reconsider the door to the study, maybe I’ll put the door to the hallway – that might even be more practical if the insurance man etc. doesn’t have to go through half the house
- the idea with the utility room door was to also have access from the garage to the utility room, so there is an option to bring, for example, crates of drinks into the house and, if needed, into the kitchen. But maybe the door in the hallway is also better placed
- I will draw in the walls, but I am not (much) stressed about letting the house grow 50cm in every direction
- once I am satisfied with the plan or the rough layout, I will go back to the architect

- I find the ground floor more difficult because I have dependencies here (location of entrance, routing of lines, location of garage)
- according to the development plan, the upper edge of the ground floor floor may only be a maximum of 30cm above the street in front of the property / we will not build a basement / we had considered a basement, but only if the garage could have fit in there and we had been allowed 1.50m above street level for the ground floor, because then due to the slope on the property one half of the basement could have been normal living space --- but the authority does not allow exceptions to the development plan
- we are building in West Saxony

Thank you for the constructive comments. Over time one becomes somewhat blind to the process.
I know how rough the draft still is, but based on my experiences so far, I’d rather put more work into the rough plan now than later fail with the professional documents including walls, statics, exterior views

If I have time, I will occasionally post updates here.

Best regards
 

Wanderdüne

2014-03-30 23:30:56
  • #6


But you can’t see that from the custom design at all.

Regarding the details and for better understanding, it was not a freelance architect commissioned by you, right? Otherwise, you would have completed stage 6 according to HOAI, and that doesn’t fit.

Your planning contains a lot of corks, the entrance is ugly, the staircase is in the dirty area, the living room is introverted and a passage room, the utility room is a trapped room.
What do the plot and the neighboring buildings look like?

WD
 

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