For some here, I may be an old man with quirky views, but this is how I think. If you love each other, even have children brought into the world, then you can also get married. That has been done since times long before Christ. This is neither new nor untested. Marriage means, now let's leave out special cases like business succession and such, mine is also yours vice versa. Marriage means standing up for each other in good times and bad. Yes, if possible, until death do us part. And even then love does not end and since it usually outlives him, it will bury him with dignity, he will have made provisions for her, and then she can still do a few nice bus tours with the church or Red Cross for a few years. Karsten