Myth?! "Breathing Walls" What is the truth?

  • Erstellt am 2020-03-06 07:02:42

haydee

2020-03-06 11:37:20
  • #1
You're not allowed to do that in an energy-efficient house *sarcasm* Can't hear that anymore.
 

Bookstar

2020-03-06 11:52:55
  • #2
Since diffusion-open roofs breathe, I also think that there are wall structures that breathe. Why not? If the sd value decreases from the inside to the outside, that should not be a physical problem. With stone houses, I'm not so sure, but the phenomenon of visible stones through the exterior plaster speaks in my opinion for the theory that moisture is expelled from the inside.
 

nordanney

2020-03-06 12:07:36
  • #3
And how much water needs how much time to pass through the entire structure? And how much water does the house breathe in through the walls? It surely is not a one-way street

Here are a few quotes from the internet that everyone can understand and verify: It is true that numerous porous building materials are air-permeable in the sense of Pettenkofer. However, air transport through the pore structure can only be initiated by a difference in air pressure between the two sides of a wall. Since the air pressure inside a building usually hardly differs from the outside air pressure, there is no driving force for such a transport process.

Every building material is in a moisture equilibrium with its environment. Depending on its location, a moisture equilibrium and a typical water content in the component are established. A component is in moisture equilibrium with the water vapor content of the indoor and outdoor air. This is very dry in winter (30% relative humidity) and the indoor air is more humid (around 30–60% relative humidity). The migration of water vapor molecules is based on their temperature-induced random motion (energy charge) and their concentration gradient inside/outside. In a normal household, about 5 to 10 liters of water per day are released as water vapor through breathing, transpiration (by humans and houseplants), cooking, etc. Of this, only 1–3% can be discharged outward through the walls by water vapor diffusion, since all building materials resist diffusion.

Moisture production in living spaces varies greatly, for example through cooking, showering, sleeping, etc. Temporarily high peak values of humidity with condensation at cooler spots such as thermal bridges or “frost flowers” on poorly insulated windows are prevented or mitigated by water vapor sorption in all hygroscopic interior claddings of all components (plasters, wood materials, fiberboards). Sorption is a natural property of all mineral building materials and has no driving mechanism. The sorbed amounts are given off again to the room air when the room air’s water vapor load decreases again through cooking, bathing, etc. They must be ventilated out of the indoor air. There is no alternative to active ventilation.

Usually, wall surfaces are not the only sorption-capable surfaces in the room. Textiles such as carpets, curtains, or upholstered furniture usually have even greater sorption capacities than wall materials and can have very large surface areas. Furnishings made of untreated wood can also contribute to sorption to some extent. However, moisture equilibrium is also established in the closed system, and moisture can only be removed from the system by ventilating in drier air. If this happens, the moisture peaks occurring in living areas are only of relatively short duration, so the sorbed moisture has little time to penetrate deeply into the wall before it is desorbed again.

Moisture buffering also requires a sufficient possibility to release the absorbed moisture again. With regular strong moisture loads, e.g., in the bathroom, a “breathable” wall surface might be disadvantageous if it absorbs moisture and appears dry so that ventilation for drying is no longer sufficient and mold develops over the long term. Here a surface that is neither “breathable” nor absorbent (such as tiles) would be safer, where condensation water is clearly visible and the need to ventilate is made obvious.
 

fragg

2020-03-06 13:00:32
  • #4

there's a ton of links inside. always copy and paste into Windows Editor first, it breaks them all. hurry when editing.
 

11ant

2020-03-06 13:33:47
  • #5
I know breathing as air exchange, water I leave to peeing. Apart from the fact that one apparently forgets a physics degree as soon as one becomes Chancellor: if climate goals were serious, the conferences would take place via video conference instead of producing countless flying hours. What is to be implemented in the end has nothing to do with sense – which is why seeking it there cannot lead to enlightenment either. Politics gets advice from experts and experts are constantly wrong, otherwise they would be specialists. In my kitchen the wall really breathes, exactly at one single spot (where the pantry was previously partitioned off, there is still a ventilation brick installed). But that does not replace airing, as a single fish roast without opening a window proves comprehensibly to a layperson.
 

ypg

2020-03-06 16:44:39
  • #6

Set 11 links in #39. I once got a warning for just one link (thanks to Wiki). It was only deleted after I joined the moderator team. Do you know what that means now?
 

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