Is this overall package fair?

  • Erstellt am 2011-10-12 00:54:30

TimB

2011-10-13 01:20:19
  • #1
One more addition, since I can no longer edit:

- Exterior walls: 36.5cm (Poroton T9)
- Interior walls: 11.5cm (11cm WLG040)

The only thing that, in my opinion, would be missing for a KfW70 standard would be the extra floor slab insulation and the LWW pump?

Best regards,
Tim
 

Häuslebauer40

2011-10-13 06:10:10
  • #2


What is the condition of the ground? Is there already a soil investigation report? As a result, is additional soil excavation possibly required and what are the costs for its removal? Resulting additional costs from a deeper frost protection layer? (The house price usually only includes 15 - 25 cm, which is usually rarely sufficient).
What about the sewage pipe, handover / inspection shaft and connection of the pipe? Rainwater pipe and connection, possibly cistern?

All quite costly things and these are just the things that came to mind off the top of my head. You should check whether and to what extent all these points are included in the price according to BB or not.
 

Bauexperte

2011-10-13 11:39:59
  • #3
Hello Tim,

HAR sounds plausible, a purely controlled ventilation and exhaust system doesn’t need that much space; I can’t assess the extra cost for insulation in the attic, it depends, for example, on the roof shape, height to the ridge/size of the attic, whether the standard stairs lead into the attic, etc. When installing such systems in the attic, you need to think ahead – what if this system needs to be replaced someday?

Sort of :) I mentioned two different systems. Tecalor TVZ is the designation for the controlled ventilation and exhaust system with heat recovery – costs around EUR 9,000. The combined unit is called Tecalor THZ 303 integral with or without the addition “SOL” – costs without SOL about EUR 10,000, with SOL about EUR 13,000. The combined unit includes the following technologies: air-water heat pump, controlled ventilation and exhaust with heat recovery and either a solar system or not, depending on choice. If I remember correctly, Buderus offers similar technology at comparable prices; since we rarely work with Buderus, I don’t have the type designations at hand.

If you now decide on the above controlled ventilation and exhaust system with heat recovery and a separate air-water heat pump, costs of about EUR 14,000 will arise. If you decide from the start on the combined unit, it will be either EUR 10,000 without SOL or EUR 13,000 including SOL. For the integral system, note that it requires a lot of space; measured from the wall it extends about 80 cm into the room and it needs a possibility for supply and exhaust air at a distance of 3.5 m.

The building envelope as a whole – including the triple glazing and roof structure – initially provides the basis for KfW 70. Only with the use of renewable energies – assuming the individual components are coordinated accordingly – does a certified KfW 70 efficiency house result.

Insulation under the floor slab in a solidly constructed single-family house is generally only necessary if you opt for gas condensing boiler with solar and controlled ventilation. With both of these last-mentioned technologies and detached construction, meeting KfW certification can often be very tight.

I have already explained to you that you will not cover the ancillary costs. I would like to ask you – since you are looking for decision support here – to have the documents of your preferred provider reviewed externally and independently and possibly also to consider external construction supervision in this context. We can only answer partially here because we do not have the same knowledge of your documents as you do. Therefore, all answers – including mine – are only partial and without guarantee ;)

** All prices I have mentioned are understood to be surcharges – the usually available gas condensing boiler plus solar system have been offset.

Best regards
 

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