Is financing so realistic and reasonable?

  • Erstellt am 2016-07-31 23:35:20

RobsonMKK

2016-08-01 08:44:35
  • #1
I'm not Goldi, but you're actually making good arguments yourself why "cutting it fine" is not a good idea.

You want to have the second child after moving in, so one salary will partly be lost for at least 12 months. I feel there is a bit of a lack of buffer. For example, what if something happens to the car? You have a total of 550 euros for "purchases," which can be tight with a major car repair.

On top of that, you want to make extra repayments, but currently only have 29 euros left per month.
Are the 611 euros per month for daycare for 1 or 2 children?
 

Legurit

2016-08-01 09:05:42
  • #2
Where is a rate of €1750 at €5.5k sharp on the button? The man plans €3600 per year for vacation...
 

Alex85

2016-08-01 09:10:31
  • #3
Honestly, I don't really like the approach of the household calculation. Adding variable costs + fixed costs, calculating the surplus from that, and then putting 100% of it into the installment wouldn't be the right approach for me. You balance the month at +/- 0. I wouldn't feel comfortable with that; I need something like a monthly surplus, a buffer, whatever. You do that in the form of items like "vacation" and "purchases" - but I also have those separately. You should really try it out to see if it works like that.

I always find other people's household budgets interesting :) You like to compare with yourself. For example, if I see that you spend (or have to spend!) 600€ on childcare, a private health insurance on top, plus another 800€ for cars - then even 5,500€ per month melts away. Very individual overall.



What's that about?
Do I understand correctly that you currently have about 9,500€ remaining debt on a consumer loan and have to pay an additional 3,600€ for a residual debt insurance until the end of the term? If yes: get rid of the residual debt insurance immediately - stupid product! Possibly have the contract checked independently whether everything was lawful. There were times when residual debt insurance nonsense was offered with some coercion, which was canceled by the Federal Court of Justice.
It should also be checked whether the loan can be paid off directly from equity. The conditions are probably significantly worse compared to mortgage loans. However, this would reduce the equity portion in the house loan and thus the conditions - that would need to be weighed up.



Are cell phones included?



Quite low for two cars. Especially if one is leased (usually full comprehensive insurance obligation + GAP protection). Really complete?



What is this for? For a current property?
For the future property, it should be included in the 425€ operating costs that you have planned separately.
480€ per year also seems rather high to me. Of course, it depends on the scope of coverage (and the building).



Since you are currently contributing extensively to riester pension, an advisor will probably address this and bring up homeownership riester.
 

RobsonMKK

2016-08-01 09:22:50
  • #4


With a "surplus" of €1,779 determined by him, a rate of €1,750 is in my eyes tightly on the button.
A family vacation for four then quickly costs more than €3,600.

And Alex85 has answered the remaining points quite extensively.
 

Horst123

2016-08-01 13:03:46
  • #5


How much have you estimated for that? As I said, these are the values I roughly determined from our consumption over the last two years (I tended to round up).



That’s why the first year of the KfW loan is interest-only.



You probably meant 250 €, that’s 3000 € per year, I can’t remember if I ever had such an expensive repair on the car. But in principle it’s of course possible, although I consider it rather unlikely.
Also, vacation pay, bonuses, etc. are not included in the salaries.



Since special repayment options usually do not cost extra anymore (as I have heard), I have included the option for the future when the salaries have increased.



For both children, both are also included in the food expenses.



In principle you are of course right. On the other hand, too large a buffer means you pay off unnecessarily long and thereby pay more interest than necessary. That’s why I tried to capture our living expenses as completely as possible. If I was unsure, I always rounded up instead of down. It’s definitely tight in the first years, I admit that. If it’s not enough, a vacation is simply smaller, but of course that is an individual matter of attitude.



Childcare halves after 3 years and disappears after 6 years (both then in school). The cars are unfortunately necessary, but with the leased car you can of course save by buying a cheap used one.



It’s an interest-free loan and the residual debt insurance is planned for the new build (estimated costs).



Work phone…



That is only the cost for the first car (old Golf 4). If a new one is due, we have a promise of financial support from the family. The leased car runs through the employer and costs 400 € total.



That is intended for the future property. If it’s covered by the ancillary costs it’s simply a buffer. The ancillary costs are difficult to estimate, that’s why I listed them separately.



I expect that too, but we don’t want to put our entire pension into the home. The Riester remains untouched for now; we only touch it in an emergency.
 

86bibo

2016-08-01 17:11:10
  • #6
I would also leave out Riester. It is associated with too many conditions plus the deferred taxation. In most cases, it is not really worth it (for a 3000€ saving, I wouldn't tie such a burden to my leg).
 

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