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2021-02-22 21:54:10
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Again a question that won't let me rest. We are currently renovating a farmstead and are not coming to any conclusion regarding the internal insulation.
The current wall structure consists of two rows of old kiln-fired bricks. Don't stone me, but according to our architect's documents it is 30 cm, but I actually think it is less, 24 cm. I can measure tomorrow if necessary, but I don't think it influences the question.
Recommendation of the architects regarding the internal insulation:
Architect A: kiln-fired brick -> lime plaster -> 20 cm Multipor -> lime plaster
Architect B: kiln-fired brick -> lime plaster -> 6 cm air layer -> insulation (e.g. mineral wool) -> Ytong or sand-lime brick, both wythes anchored -> lime plaster
The latter variant would be attractive to us insofar as we could improve the statics at the same time and compensate for the slant of one wall (10 cm over 225 cm height). However, I now read in almost every forum only arguments against variant B and for variant A.
What is actually the difference to new, double-skin masonry? It is executed exactly the same way, only that it consists of a clinker and is of course not executed in the thickness of 24 cm. According to calculation on ubakus the dew point is between the walls in both variants. In the case of Multipor, it absorbs the water and slowly releases it again when it becomes drier or is ventilated accordingly. How does this work with variant B? The air layer would have to be ventilated, or where should the condensate go?
This topic is making me a bit down. Especially because there are two architects who have actually renovated many old buildings and recommend two different approaches. ...can't they just agree :p
The current wall structure consists of two rows of old kiln-fired bricks. Don't stone me, but according to our architect's documents it is 30 cm, but I actually think it is less, 24 cm. I can measure tomorrow if necessary, but I don't think it influences the question.
Recommendation of the architects regarding the internal insulation:
Architect A: kiln-fired brick -> lime plaster -> 20 cm Multipor -> lime plaster
Architect B: kiln-fired brick -> lime plaster -> 6 cm air layer -> insulation (e.g. mineral wool) -> Ytong or sand-lime brick, both wythes anchored -> lime plaster
The latter variant would be attractive to us insofar as we could improve the statics at the same time and compensate for the slant of one wall (10 cm over 225 cm height). However, I now read in almost every forum only arguments against variant B and for variant A.
What is actually the difference to new, double-skin masonry? It is executed exactly the same way, only that it consists of a clinker and is of course not executed in the thickness of 24 cm. According to calculation on ubakus the dew point is between the walls in both variants. In the case of Multipor, it absorbs the water and slowly releases it again when it becomes drier or is ventilated accordingly. How does this work with variant B? The air layer would have to be ventilated, or where should the condensate go?
This topic is making me a bit down. Especially because there are two architects who have actually renovated many old buildings and recommend two different approaches. ...can't they just agree :p