Impacts of Mandatory Local Heating Connection

  • Erstellt am 2022-03-22 13:53:03

CookingWithIce

2022-03-22 13:53:03
  • #1
Hi everyone,

we have a draft purchase agreement for a plot of land in a newly (or still) to be developed residential area in RLP (Weinstrasse). The special feature in this development area is the construction of a combined heat and power plant (CHP) running on natural gas operated by the local municipal utilities and the heat supply for the area through this CHP. We are still wondering how much flexibility we have and what exactly the impact on our plans will be.

Here are some relevant excerpts from the contract


So if I understand correctly:

- After signing the contract, we are bound to supply from the municipal utilities for 15 years
- We pay a fixed monthly fee plus a variable part based on the heat consumed
- Even if we reduce the heat demand to zero, for example by generating our heat with a heat pump, we still have to pay the fixed fee?
- In general, the acquisition costs are probably low (only the transfer station), but we are tied to the price development in the long term
- According to my calculation (see below), with 150 sqm we would have about €973 fixed costs and only €550 variable consumption costs, totaling over €130 per month. Is that correct?

So the whole thing doesn’t sound very attractive. It’s probably convenient and you don’t have to worry much, but it’s anything but flexible and sustainable. Originally, our plan was to build as energy-efficiently as possible, generate electricity with a photovoltaic system, and operate the heating via heat pump. So simply as "autonomous" as possible (as far as possible in our latitudes), sustainable and environmentally conscious. Because of the fixed price, which applies even if we generate the heat ourselves, this is no longer economically viable in this form. Can we somehow avoid this?

What do you think? No-go, makes no difference, or super practical? If I misunderstood anything, please correct me :)

 

apokolok

2022-03-22 14:12:08
  • #2
If you want to build there, that's how it is. Installing a heat pump there doesn't make economic sense. Basically, gas is still available in sufficient quantities, and the current prices will go down again. For me, it wouldn't be a deal-breaker. An advantage is also that you save space in the house connection room, which is hard to price but is definitely a bonus. I find the outdoor units of air heat pumps very, very ugly, so that would be another advantage.
 

Benutzer200

2022-03-22 14:38:38
  • #3
Let's say that you save T€ 15 in acquisition costs for the heat pump (this makes it easier to calculate) and the heat pump needs to be replaced after 15 years. Thus, €1,000 annually and therefore €85 monthly. Then only €49 heating costs per month remain. THAT is very attractive again. Price increases etc. not taken into account. If the heat pump is cheaper or lasts longer, then it looks different again. And so on. It's a bet on the future.
 

Mahri23

2022-03-22 14:39:06
  • #4

I know exactly the opposite as well. Quite a large house station in the utility room. Plus now the "suddenly" horrendously rising prices. A colleague of mine is connected to such a combined heat and power plant. He only has problems with his supplier. The price has now been increased from currently 150.00 monthly to 290.00. At the end of the year, there will also be the final invoice, and unfortunately, due to the unfavorably running system, he cannot say what he might have to pay extra then. By the way, the house is about 130 m² in size.
Ours is the same size and I currently pay 27.95 monthly for my complete house supply.
I would be very skeptical about whether you are doing well with the contract... :rolleyes:
 

11ant

2022-03-22 19:02:55
  • #5
I think so, and I only know this as an "connection and usage obligation." That means: you are then not allowed to supply yourself from elsewhere. Incidentally, this topic of local heating economic viability is currently also being discussed here:
 

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