Floor plan & house positioning Single-family house on a "curved floor plan"

Why does the house entrance have to be in the middle? The staircase can also be somewhere else. Why does the bedroom have to be exactly in that spot?

Since we currently see the house entrance covered due to the bay window above, placing it in the middle of/under it makes visual sense.

We find the bedroom ideally located in the northeast and it should be next to the dressing room and preferably not next to the bathroom and children's rooms...

Moving the staircase, potentially inside, and bringing the kitchen closer to the dining area is now on the list.

The only walking route that counts is from the kitchen to the dining area and back. And with this floor plan, that is really terrible because it’s way too long, and if you call your kids "come eat" and you still have to get something from the kitchen, they will run you over in this area.

As I said, on the list.
Still, I don’t know how your daily life looks, but ours definitely does not only consist of wandering between kitchen and dining room.
We will definitely include the stairs going up/down in this walking route!

You plan the heart of the house outside the house with long pipe runs and worry about a toilet drain near a kitchen faucet? ...

Touché

Yes, the stairs... aren’t they also trendy? Your trend?
Your dream of a half-landing staircase is not visible at all. The whole point is totally missed there.

We currently have a 180-degree spiral staircase and find it unpleasant every day to walk on these narrow tapering steps. Hence the desire for a half-landing staircase. Appearance is one thing, but with a closed space underneath it is less of a visual object than if it were an open staircase anyway.

I overlooked that you have a house building company. Why don’t you take a standard house from them? You want a captain’s gable or a Frisian house... and exactly that fits wonderfully oriented on the plot!

Okay. Standard house = a standard floor plan? It’s not like we haven’t researched some. We are open to being shown an example that fulfills our wishes.

In any case, I would place the third gable so that it is visible when approaching.

We find that a nice approach. Depending on which street side you come from it’s always once sideways and once nice and frontal, but we will keep that in mind. For this reason, we want it at the front and not at the back.

Your pantry is at the start of the stairs, so it’s useless except for the cheese in the mouse hole.

There is a huge thinking error in that! We already noticed that this evening. Got caught The living/dining room door of course sits in front of the staircase. The wall must of course be in line with the living room TV wall.

Two windows cannot be placed because of the roof.

Which ones?

Please show the design from the house builder.

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Then it’s worth switching the house provider! Reasonable house providers also have planners. One might be less committed than the other, but the line drawing doesn’t exactly inspire confidence. To be honest, I skimmed over this post with the line drawing because it had too many childish aspects (especially the original drawing).

But I also have to be honest and say that you want to save money on an architect but still want an architect’s house. That usually doesn’t work. You cannot replace a trained professional. You are trying to draw the magic all-in-one solution for yourself and forget the priorities of a house design. You want to spend €370,000 but don’t want to treat yourself to an expert.

Okay. Typified house = a standard floorplan? So it’s not as if we didn’t research. We are open to being shown an example that fulfills our wishes.

Since captain’s and Frisian houses are naturally designed symmetrically, which usually come with a simple spiral staircase at the entrance, the combination with a different staircase is not so easy to find online.
Since I can also imagine the front door on the short side for the plot or the third gable as a large window front in the southwest, I’ll throw the Lichthaus 152 from Town & Country into the mix
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Or a Baumeister house, Haus Denker. Although here I would rather see the entrance in the northwest, meaning the house turned.

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Or the Maxime 700, but mirrored...
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Otherwise, I would just look at the dimensions of normal one-story houses with a 1-meter KS. Imagining a gable is doable.

Two windows cannot be installed because of the roof.

Those would be the two children’s room windows in the normal gables. The two rooms hardly have standing height.

Still, I don’t know what your day-to-day life looks like, but ours definitely does not only consist of walking between the kitchen and dining room.

No, but many other components (e.g. as you listed) don’t have to be considered in a house design. Everyone has to eat. As a second priority, one should probably name the nighttime path from the bed to the toilet on the upper floor – that shouldn’t be too convoluted.

We currently have a 180-degree spiral staircase and find it unpleasant every day to walk on these narrow tapering steps. Hence the desire for a landing staircase.

Spiral staircases are out of the question for comparison anyway. A landing staircase is expensive and takes up space, and you choose it because you want it. For the appearance, for example. The landing itself is a small tripping hazard because the walking rhythm is interrupted... this has nothing to do with narrow steps, since a staircase is subject to standards and one can calculate the step length over the rise by calculation.

But whatever... I don’t want to persuade you here. You asked, you get answers... what you make of it, e.g. sugar-coating all things or rejecting good tips as if they came unsolicited, is your thing.

P.S. And why an office shouldn’t get evening sun, I don’t understand either.

It's worth switching the house provider! Reasonable house providers also have planners. One maybe not as committed as the other, but the line drawing certainly doesn't inspire confidence.

Somewhat simplistic thinking! The line drawings are of course NOT from the house builder. The best drawings from all companies in the closer selection came from them. With dimensions, furniture proposals and 3D excerpts. The line drawing is a 2-minute rendering from us to post it online, as we still want to upload the originals including the company's name etc.

The platform itself is a small tripping hazard because the walking rhythm is interrupted....

According to our experience and research, straight and platform stairs are actually the safest stairs, as they have NO narrowing stairs. Especially for children and older people (links are not allowed as reference).

P.s. And why an office should not get evening sun, I don’t understand either.

PS: Because for us it’s a kind of storage room. Storage for books, folders, craft supplies. We prefer to have the sun in another room. This is again a priority due to lifestyle habits.

Thanks for the input. We will take all ideas and your floor plan pictures with us into next week.

Do you have any idea how much it would cost to create multiple drafts alone? Additionally, we are somewhat unsure whether an architect X can create a draft for timber frame construction.

Regarding question 2: yes, a freelance architect should be able to do that.
Regarding question 1: as far as multiple variants for the purpose of discussion (in the sense of weighing them against each other) are concerned, no drafts are needed; preliminary drafts are sufficient. This idea comes from the HOAI, whose table values you can compare with your fee expectations. If you then ask around: "who will do the job, with a fee offer of xy amount," presumably as many architects will apply as expected based on the ratio of table fee to desired fee.
However, I do not understand why you do not simply go, as already advised here, with your ideas to a provider with a comparable basic model (in this case, in my assessment, most likely Gussek Haus or Viebrockhaus, subject to price agreement – I have not yet understood the preference for timber frame).

Thanks for the info. We will probably contact architects once, but also ask the house company again about architect/planner meetings.

We select the house company based on quality and offer, not on basic models.