Experience with renovating old building condominiums

  • Erstellt am 2022-03-28 11:44:26

peweks85

2022-03-28 11:44:26
  • #1
Hello everyone,

first a brief introduction: My name is Artur and I have been a silent reader for a long time.

My wife and I have found our desired property and are currently in the final stages of the purchase process.
It is an old apartment (5 rooms + kitchen + bathroom + balcony) with about 110 sqm living space in a 3-family house from around 1905 in a Lower Saxony city.

The apartment was last completely renovated in the late 1990s.
Some things are still acceptable to us (bathroom, for example), but of course we want to implement and refresh our own ideas.
I would appreciate your support for this!

Ahead of time: Should I post my questions separately by topic in different sections? Or collect everything here in one thread?

Walls
The apartment is fully wallpapered with woodchip wallpaper in the living rooms.
We will remove the wallpapers and want to leave the walls simply plastered and paint them with silicate paint.
As far as I know, silicate paint adheres well only on lime plaster.
Of course we don’t want to knock off all the existing plaster on the walls down to the masonry, but want to achieve diffusion-open and reasonably smooth walls with as little work as possible (super smooth filling is not necessary).
How can I determine what kind of plaster it is and how should I proceed best?
What prices should we expect if we want a professional to smooth the walls by filling?

Fireplace
The current tenants use a small wood stove in the living room.
My wife and I want to definitely continue using the stove in addition to the normal heating.
Can we simply continue to use the old stove from the tenants (grandfather rights/shielding protection)?
If the tenants take the stove with them, what should we particularly pay attention to when purchasing a new one?

Kitchen
We have to redesign the kitchen.
We hope that under a PVC floor the old terrazzo floor is still there. If not, it will have to be tiled anew.
My wife and I want tiles with geometric patterns in the style of Art Nouveau – fitting the old building.
Can we just buy such tiles and then tell a tiler: "Please install these tiles"
Or do craftsmen no longer do that today due to liability and so on?

Thanks in advance!
I have certainly forgotten important details and will try to provide them as well as possible.

If my posting is misplaced here, I apologize!
Where should it be placed correctly then?
 

Grundaus

2022-03-28 12:02:44
  • #2
After removing the textured wallpaper, the quality of the walls will not be such that they can be painted immediately. You will have to have a uniform surface done anyway, i.e. a completely new plaster. If the wood-burning stove was only in operation due to an exceptional regulation, you will have to buy a new one. The chimney sweep will provide further details. Costs are relatively low, under 2000.-- for a normal stove. I hope the heating energy consumption is not read with [Verdunsterröhrchen]. Every tile installer naturally wants to make a profit from selling tiles. If it is nothing exotic, however, a tile installer will also install provided tiles for an additional charge.
 

Winniefred

2022-03-28 13:31:08
  • #3


I would ask the painter who will do the filling about the type of plaster. If it was completely renovated 25-30 years ago, in my opinion a new plaster is certainly not necessary. I would then have the matching filler for the silicate paint applied but definitely leave the "old" plaster on. That’s how friends are currently doing it in their old building from the 70s, where the plaster is still flawless. Regarding prices, I can’t say anything; we always do this ourselves and the material costs are low, here the labor costs are clearly the main cost driver. For us, however, the plaster was still the original from 1921, which was naturally worn out. In your case, the plaster is probably still practically new.

Unfortunately, I have no idea about stoves. But I have in mind that stoves will soon become more difficult to deal with.

Our tiler looked at the tiles we bought and then said whether he would lay them or not. We got samples and showed them to him.
 

11ant

2022-03-28 13:53:05
  • #4
I prefer the concept of "one thread per object". That sounds like good chances to get hold of the inventory drawings from back then. With such old substance, I would not emphasize the expected unevenness by contrasting it with perfect straightness. Pay attention to relevant old building references. Allow the craftsman their purchase margin; and yes, the keyword "subsequent trade" is not insignificant for the warranty.
 

peweks85

2022-03-28 16:34:20
  • #5
Thanks in any case for your prompt responses!
Do we need to worry or be concerned about the composition of the plaster?
In my mind, the concern is swirling that the current plaster on the walls, or even the filler that might be needed to smooth it out, could be incompatible with silicate paint.

Am I worrying unnecessarily?

Sidenote: We of course don’t expect perfect straight lines and a super smoothly sanded result! We just don’t want any wallpaper :)
 

Grundaus

2022-03-30 11:53:50
  • #6
There will certainly still be some of the very old plaster in parts, which has been repaired in many places with various materials. New sockets, windows, doors, bathroom, etc. Therefore, remove the wallpaper and check, and do not choose a craftsman who has never worked with silicate paint.
 

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