Defective painting works (Q4, painting works)

  • Erstellt am 2024-04-21 21:24:03

South

2024-04-21 21:24:03
  • #1
Good day,

after a long time, I am getting back to a not so pleasant topic. The order was Q4 and the painting with clay paint.

The following issues:

1. Even without (natural) raking light, the walls are obviously not 100% smooth. I can basically live with that, although I would still interpret the dents as not Q4 compliant. In raking light (sun), the walls are sometimes really bad, under artificial raking light almost unbearable. However, I know that artificial raking light is not the standard for assessing the work. The photos in the dark area are unfortunately somewhat "over-contrasted" by the phone and not somewhat less bad. Do you also see this as a defect? (As far as the pictures allow, I will try to take new ones again)

2. Unfortunately, the painter did not point out to us that dark clay paint is not a good idea, because, as with other dark colors, stains are very visible but cannot be (well) cleaned. Whether dry or wet, the paint flakes off. Not abrasion-resistant, we should have known that it is not sensible with dark paint. But I would have found a hint helpful. We then spoke with the painter, he gave us silicate paint which we then applied ourselves on top of the clay paint. However, he did not inform us that we might need to wash off the clay paint beforehand, nor that a primer would be necessary. Well, the silicate paint now rubs off like the clay paint or, with moist abrasion, you can even see the white plaster again. Maybe we should have known that too. Presumably, there is little room here regarding rework?

3. The painter suggested a primer with the dark clay paint before wallpapering (one wall in the dark room). He said it looks better in case a seam should come loose. I thought that was a good suggestion. After dealing with the matter, that no longer seems like a good idea to me because of the lack of adhesion. But the wallpaper is holding so far.
 

derdietmar

2024-04-21 21:42:07
  • #2
Hello,

Streaks may cause reprints at any quality level. What you are showing here is, in my opinion, poor and barely at Q2 level.

Best regards
 

ypg

2024-04-21 22:27:52
  • #3
Our Q2 is much better. I am really sorry about that. Was the natural stone masonry that can be seen included in that?
 

South

2024-04-21 22:37:26
  • #4
Thank you very much for the answers

Yes, that's right, Streiflicht is not a basis for evaluation. I will try to take pictures during the day. Unevenness is definitely visible even without direct light.

And yes ypg, I also thought it looked like an old wall where unevenness is part of the charm. However, underneath there is new internal insulation, aerated concrete with lime-cement plaster. I don’t want to judge how good the applied lime-cement plaster (Q2) was. However, there were no comments from the painter on this.

How do you see the second point? Felt like wrong advice on my part, but in reality probably nothing to be done?
 

nordanney

2024-04-22 00:00:47
  • #5
No discussion. This is NOT Q4. Far from it. Lime-cement plaster will not be as baby-bottom smooth as gypsum plaster, but dents and these marks are a no-go. Q3 already means that processing marks, such as trowel strokes, are largely avoided. Q4 adds a mandatory (!!!) full-surface refinement with suitable filler or smoothing plaster material (I assume a smoothed plaster, rubbed or troweled would be a different treatment – usually refined twice with top coat).
 

Oberhäslich

2024-04-22 08:39:49
  • #6
I also think this is a disaster, especially the areas of the dark color are far from Q3/Q4. Our Q2 plaster doesn't even look like that, it's almost completely smooth. I can't see at all that the painter used a trowel there. I'm not an expert, but I've looked into it a bit. I can't imagine that clay plaster can't be smoothed out. I rather wonder how one can get the surface to look so atrocious, I would be furious - I wouldn't pay :)
 

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