Clinker facade without backing wall

  • Erstellt am 2017-02-16 15:12:31

DragonyxXL

2017-02-18 17:34:50
  • #1

Well, there is a structural calculation and a floor plan, but nothing that says what the gable is made of.

We had considered wood cladding before. We would probably see it as an emergency solution.


The base for the bricks is present. Anchors are already distributed all around the wall.


Sounds a bit like tinkering, but it could work.

But wouldn’t it be enough to build the gable out of sand-lime bricks? I mean, you’d then have a lot of weight supported by gravity on the ring beam and bricks.
 

11ant

2017-02-18 17:52:51
  • #2


I don't quite understand: if you wanted to masonry and are afraid of weight, why do you think of heavy stones instead of light ones? - Aerated concrete could of course also be used to masonry the gable triangle; and in combination with facing bricks instead of normal or thin-format bricks as below, that would be even lighter.
 

DragonyxXL

2017-02-18 18:20:39
  • #3
I am not afraid of the weight of the materials, but only of the wind load in the gable area. I can hardly imagine that the wind could blow over the clinker (not supported) gable, but the risk exists, right?
 

11ant

2017-02-18 18:33:09
  • #4
If the wind cannot get behind it, it will not tear off the surface and blow it away. It will press against it, and of course the surface will swing if it is not very stiff (as with strips on wooden boards or even clinker-fake "wallpaper"). Aerated concrete placed on the ring beam would therefore be the most appealing solution for the supporting wall section, possibly behind strips. From the anchors below, I conclude that the clinker in front of the wall surface is otherwise supposed to become a shell of normal stone thickness (?)

Why do you even ask, do you not want to leave this to the contractor continuing the construction but want to start here with your own efforts? - or just have a preliminary idea to discuss with him?
 

DragonyxXL

2017-02-19 19:33:13
  • #5


Exactly, shell in normal thickness 11.5 cm.

Yes exactly, just to find out whether I need to talk more with the masons or the carpenters or a clinker company. Unfortunately, I have to assume that every company is interested in offering me a solution that they can manufacture themselves.
 

11ant

2017-02-19 21:30:04
  • #6


For the garage, straps would be enough for me (?)



The carpenters will have little to say in this, as facing shells are not anchored to the roof structure. That means it would be unusual, due to the different materials and their respective coefficients of expansion. If something had to be cobbled together there, it would rather be an "experimental case" for them, with a lot of tinkering and pondering.

The clinker installers can say what they need. Whether you want to do clinker facing (and exactly with what) is up to you.

Did you see that I sent you a private message yesterday (see "Conversations")?
 

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