ich2k17
2024-05-10 21:55:16
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Good evening everyone, I have, in my opinion, a not entirely unusual plan ahead, about which I would like to hear whether you would have a good feeling about it or if I should have one ;-).
For the purpose of expanding the family tree, my condominium (built in 2006) is to be sold and a house (built in 2017) purchased.
Framework conditions:
- Fully paid-off condominium, value according to the realtor: €275,000 + €15,000 parking space
- House: purchase price €500,000 + incidental costs
- Additionally, a kitchen costing €20,000 and renovation costs (floors, fly screens throughout the house, painting + wallpaper) amounting to €10,000 must be provided by me, realtor fee for selling the apartment: 3.57%: €10,000
- Total financing sum thus around €590,000 (house purchase price is fixed, we will see about the apartment, but for the financing below I only assume €250,000, you never know).
Talked with ING respectively Interhyp & realtor: First house purchase, then renovation, then apartment sale, for which interim financing is needed, conservatively assumed at €250,000 (and 6.8% interest).
Additionally the following on the asset side:
- €50,000 in cash, prospectively end of 2024: €70,000
- €100,000 in stocks / ETFs in profit should only be sold in an emergency, they serve as retirement provision.
Gross household income: €160,000 p.a. (man €120,000, woman the rest)
Thus pure financing amount €590,000 - €250,000 equity = €340,000, provided I do not touch cash / stocks.
If the apartment really brings in €290,000, the rest will flow into special repayments from 2025.
Now the big (or also small, your opinion is asked here) but: The house seller wants to go to the notary as soon as possible, so the purchase presumably at the beginning of July. A tenant still lives in the house until 1.11., rent income €1300 warm. Apartment sale could thus, conservatively, occur around 1.1. - 1.2.25.
The baby is due end of October, so we did not necessarily want to move then, therefore rather beginning of 2025.
My concerns here: What if the apartment does not even bring €250,000, what if the tenant does not move out? I would now prospectively have to buy a house into which I cannot move, get a child, have to renovate the place, and simultaneously pay almost €3100 into the financing as long as the apartment is not yet sold. In addition, my wife goes on parental leave from September.
We are quite security-conscious and therefore ask ourselves: Does this sound like harakiri to you as experienced homeowners, or is it only due to the sums and hormones ( ;-) ).
Sorry for the wall of text, feel free to ask questions, I think it reads quite confusing.
For the purpose of expanding the family tree, my condominium (built in 2006) is to be sold and a house (built in 2017) purchased.
Framework conditions:
- Fully paid-off condominium, value according to the realtor: €275,000 + €15,000 parking space
- House: purchase price €500,000 + incidental costs
- Additionally, a kitchen costing €20,000 and renovation costs (floors, fly screens throughout the house, painting + wallpaper) amounting to €10,000 must be provided by me, realtor fee for selling the apartment: 3.57%: €10,000
- Total financing sum thus around €590,000 (house purchase price is fixed, we will see about the apartment, but for the financing below I only assume €250,000, you never know).
Talked with ING respectively Interhyp & realtor: First house purchase, then renovation, then apartment sale, for which interim financing is needed, conservatively assumed at €250,000 (and 6.8% interest).
Additionally the following on the asset side:
- €50,000 in cash, prospectively end of 2024: €70,000
- €100,000 in stocks / ETFs in profit should only be sold in an emergency, they serve as retirement provision.
Gross household income: €160,000 p.a. (man €120,000, woman the rest)
Thus pure financing amount €590,000 - €250,000 equity = €340,000, provided I do not touch cash / stocks.
If the apartment really brings in €290,000, the rest will flow into special repayments from 2025.
Now the big (or also small, your opinion is asked here) but: The house seller wants to go to the notary as soon as possible, so the purchase presumably at the beginning of July. A tenant still lives in the house until 1.11., rent income €1300 warm. Apartment sale could thus, conservatively, occur around 1.1. - 1.2.25.
The baby is due end of October, so we did not necessarily want to move then, therefore rather beginning of 2025.
My concerns here: What if the apartment does not even bring €250,000, what if the tenant does not move out? I would now prospectively have to buy a house into which I cannot move, get a child, have to renovate the place, and simultaneously pay almost €3100 into the financing as long as the apartment is not yet sold. In addition, my wife goes on parental leave from September.
We are quite security-conscious and therefore ask ourselves: Does this sound like harakiri to you as experienced homeowners, or is it only due to the sums and hormones ( ;-) ).
Sorry for the wall of text, feel free to ask questions, I think it reads quite confusing.