Wrong foundation with high consequential costs

  • Erstellt am 2023-11-09 18:56:45

HilfeHilfe

2023-11-10 05:31:02
  • #1
Hello,

what amounts are we talking about now for B and A that have to be paid extra?

If A has no liability insurance, I would at least not pay anything and wait to see what happens. But don't let them come at us with a hammer^^
 

meinhaus2020

2023-11-10 06:36:21
  • #2


B was there, measured, called, said the foundations don’t fit, and left again.

Round trip was just over 100 km.

The 6 hours were given as the total of travel, on-site inspection, departure, unloading material, and loading it again next time.

And yes, I am very annoyed in hindsight for not having checked whether the foundations were laid according to the foundation plan.
 

meinhaus2020

2023-11-10 06:45:02
  • #3


For A it is 350€ (i.e. 50% of the normal rate for new foundations) and for B 1000€ (about 11% of the estimated total costs for the carport).
 

dertill

2023-11-10 08:22:11
  • #4
Refer to A that an agreed service (constructing the foundation according to plan) was not fully performed and the requested repair was only carried out due to A's mistakes; therefore, you will not pay anything further here.
To B: I now understand why I no longer hire craft businesses if it can be avoided somehow. This is not aimed at "B", but generally this practice may be necessary for the company; for the average person who then has to pay €1000 for "nothing," it is simply nonsense.
I would follow up with B again regarding the hours charged and why they need two employees for at least 4 hours each to unload and reload a carport. (I assume 2 hours driving and on-site for the phone call) – always friendly and factual, you still need them.
 

WilderSueden

2023-11-10 09:14:35
  • #5
I don't know what problem you have with the 6 hours. The company scheduled the appointment for that day and then couldn't work. Driving spontaneously to another construction site is not possible either; that also has to be prepared and announced. The damage is not the two hours in the car, the damage is a working day. And such installation teams rarely have work in the workshop that they can do on such days.

Liability with personal assets only applies with the corresponding legal form. Most operate as GmbH, where liability is accordingly limited. That is also why the question of insolvency arises; with an insolvent GmbH, you can save yourself the lawsuit.
Liability also extends to consequential damages. The company will naturally try to minimize these as much as possible, which is why you absolutely need a level playing field.
 

meinhaus2020

2023-11-10 09:21:29
  • #6


The thing is: one of the installers owns Company B, which is why I expected the verbal agreement of 3 hours. Suddenly billing double does not make sense to me.

Also, the costs were not known beforehand, neither flat rates nor anything else.
 

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