Trash bin in the countertop

I only mentioned the organic waste bin because that's the system I know so far.

Me too

For normal residual waste, I find the whole thing even more questionable...

Me too

By the way: here, everything is allowed in the organic waste, including food leftovers, etc. The waste disposal company explicitly stated that. Obviously, the composting plant can handle it well, and the goal was mainly to keep the residual waste as dry as possible. So it is handled differently from one disposal company to another.
At my grandma’s, everything also went on the compost...

Uh, that has nothing to do with the waste disposal company where we live. We don’t have an organic waste bin because we have a composter.
An organic waste bin offers insects a good food supply, which means you have to fight maggots in warm weather.

Nowadays it is prohibited in residential areas (unfounded assumption), at least frowned upon here, to put meat, proteins, etc. into the compost because it attracts vermin.
That grandma perhaps wasn’t as bothered by contact with rats and co. as we are today is another matter. “Back then” conditions were different – and grandma with a composter lived rurally anyway.
Grandma even used to slaughter herself and stir blood here; is that even allowed today??

In the kitchen cabinet, a practical solution called MULP (waste under the countertop) is used. That really makes sense.

Thanks, Siggi: I’ve read about a MULP in another thread and thought: oh, something new again?
But that is exactly THE system I have known since forever.

My goodness. You all really have a lot to discuss in my thread.

To clarify once again:

1) The countertop costs 30 €. A Wesco trash can, which is sold from 60€ upwards, is therefore not proportional.
2) I believe the Wesco trash can holds 5 liters? My garbage bags hold 50 liters. I don't feel like constantly having to change the bags.
3) It doesn't smell because I have lids that close the holes.
4) The trash hasn't flown around so far because the bag openings are larger than the holes in the countertop.
5) Nothing gets wet because I make sure nothing gets wet, or if it does, I wipe it dry. (That hasn't happened very often so far.)

I just want to know:

1) How do I best seal the edges?
2) How do I get a plastic ring (around which I can stretch the bags) into the holes so that I can fully stretch a bag around it without the ring getting in the way? Or is there a sliding system that I can install?

I will focus on these two questions now. Of course, you are welcome to continue giving me your feedback. Thank you!

Best regards

Regarding question 1) A countertop is usually sealed with silicone, which is applied thinly to the open areas. (At least that is how the kitchen installers do it)

2) How do I get a plastic ring (where I can stretch the bags around) into the holes so that I can stretch a bag completely around without the ring being in the way? Or is there a sliding system that I can install?

That only works with magnets, if I understand correctly. Magnets on the underside of the opening in the countertop, then the bag pulled over a metal ring of the same size and then attached from below to the magnets. Otherwise, you can't get fully (!) around.

A sliding system is nothing other than what many (without the opening in the countertop) have, meaning a drawer with small bin(s). But that doesn’t work hanging with just a 50-liter bag, only with a bucket; otherwise you are at least not fully around the bag. Essentially, you want what already works reasonably well with "yellow bag holders." There, the bag also hangs in a holder (though not completely encompassing), clamped by the lid and still tears.

Another suggestion: Ikea or similar has large bins up to 40-50 liters for storage, e.g. "Filur." If you put that on a rolling board and build it so it clamps under the countertop, it might work.

Best regards Dirk Grafe

The wood might possibly also be sealed with boat varnish. Maybe one should try it on a test piece. The garbage bags. I would possibly just build a bucket out of wood that on the one hand holds the garbage bag like the current UK and prevents tearing. Extendable can be easily done. You only need something like a rail system. Neige already gave the tip with the Z-profiles. You then hang a holder for the bucket on it and if you want it really nice you also install some rollers so you can push it in and out and out and in and out and in as much as you want. I wouldn’t connect the bags to the countertop at all but just slip them over the bucket as usual and mount it somewhat larger under the countertop.

My goodness. They really need to discuss a lot in my thread.

You asked......

The countertop costs 30 €. A Wesco trash can, which is sold starting at 60 €, is therefore not in proportion.

You can't leave it at that because the Wesco accordingly has an odor-tight stainless steel lid, the ring is made of stainless steel and can either be mounted on top or recessed flush.

I think the Wesco trash can holds 5 liters? My trash bags hold 50 liters. I don't feel like constantly having to change the bags.

The Wesco with its 5 liters is actually only meant to collect food scraps and is perfectly dimensioned for that.

It doesn't smell because I have lids that close the holes.

With a 50 liter capacity, I personally consider that a myth, especially in certain weather.

The trash hasn't spilled beside yet because the openings of the bags are bigger than the holes in the countertop

which is why I suggested Z-aluminum or metal profiles, although for a smaller volume bin.

Nothing gets wet because I make sure that nothing gets wet, or if it does, I wipe it dry. (That hasn't happened very often to me so far)

I disagree there as well. With your system, there is a risk that with such a volume and not timely removal of the trash, moisture will form, and believe me, over time it will surely smell and your countertop will eventually be damaged from below. This is exactly what the Wesco prevents because the bin is removed from the top.

How do I best seal the edges?

Honestly? With a 50 liter volume and reluctance to "constantly change the bags", you don't need to seal it. Because no sealant will withstand constant moisture exposure from below.

How do I get a plastic ring (around which I can stretch the bags) into the holes so that I can fully stretch a bag around it without the ring being in the way

If it's not done properly, a rubber one that you can stretch around will also do.

Is there a sliding system that I can install?

As I said before, Z-profile and smaller bins.

Of course, you can keep giving me your feedback

What is the point of that? I think you have received enough suggestions, so make use of them.