Timber stud walls 16-24cm thickness experiences

2018-02-03 14:24:23

Oh, one more thing: I think the way people build today is a philosophical question and an attitude of the builders. In the beginning, we "searched" for everything, but then we settled on the wooden house. Maybe also because I grew up in one. When it comes to insulation and consumption, the houses are comparable. We just found the climate in wooden houses more pleasant.

2018-02-03 14:42:53

I was not talking about trust in this construction method, but about familiarity with it. Someone who is firmly inclined towards a certain construction method usually has reasons for it, which in turn don’t align with little knowledge.

Hehe, I say this (coming from a butcher dynasty), there is not more "wood" in a prefabricated house wall than there is meat in the sausage.

With a 16 cm construction wood "core" and a bit of sheathing, the wall today is no longer finished. Some manufacturers have simply switched their systems to "thicker dimensions" of earlier constructions, and others have completely rethought the wall structure. They come to different conclusions: one doubles the "extra" insulation like an ETICS on a solid wall, the other stuffs it between the studs and adjusts their thickness accordingly (in the cross-section they are no longer square, and therefore not necessarily "more" wood).

Am I right in assuming (to quote Hans Sachs again) that you came to prefabricated houses through one of the two classic myths: "it goes faster" or "there are fewer final price surprises"?

Of course we have our reasons for it. And they are not the ones mentioned. There will be surprises in every construction, and just with the waiting times we have before a wall leaves the factory, a lot of time is lost.

But the wood that is used must bear the loads of the house. The insulation etc. will not bear any load.
Therefore, I asked myself whether with the thinner "beams" the statics are already being saved on in advance here. If I understand Blackm88’s answer correctly, a recalculation is done here and then, if necessary, the beam is made thicker.

2018-02-03 15:04:52

whether with the thinner "beams" here the statics are already being saved in advance.

No, even with 16 cm beam thickness you get a stiff and load-bearing wall. Just like at the bakery Graubrot for example between wheat and rye, you can also choose between, for example, a classic and an organic wall construction at the prefabricated house manufacturer. Each is then a fixed wall construction in concept and dimension. For the individual project, calculations are more likely done by the carpenter who is regional in the market.

The cheap builders among the prefabricated house providers do not build you a shack, but skimp for example on tile quality, number of sockets, and such. A wall with 16 cm thick beams is not a cheap fake, but has been a proven standard already thirty years ago.

2018-02-04 10:50:05

Perhaps more studs per running meter of wall are used with the 16 cm wall, or different wood qualities/sortings are used. However, I lived in a timber frame house for years and never want to do that again.

2018-02-04 11:41:04

However, I lived in a timber-frame house for years and never need to do that again.

What exactly do you never need again?

2018-02-04 14:55:41

I did not like the climate. Especially in the summer, it got warm faster with strong sunlight. Sometimes it cracked during rapid temperature changes. It was also noisy. In these aspects, our new building is three classes better ([Poroton], faced brick, core insulation according to [Energieeinsparverordnung]).

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Timber stud walls 16-24cm thickness experiences

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