Questions about the order

Hello dear forum,

I have been reading along for a while now and am diligently informing myself, as my boyfriend and I also want to build. Our situation is as follows: My parents have quite a bit of land and would like to give or rather gift us a part of it. This part would then be measured out. However, we do not yet know whether the land can be built on at all. Inquiries at the responsible building authority have so far only resulted in the statement that no appointments are made to discuss the project, but only a preliminary building inquiry can be submitted by a planner in order to check this. We were only told orally on the phone after a quick look at the plot plan that at first glance nothing can be seen that could stand in the way of approval.

Now we are not exactly sure in which order we should proceed. Should we go to a planner and have the land measured out after a possibly positive preliminary building inquiry, or does this have to be done beforehand? And how exact do the details about the house have to be? We are still at the beginning of the planning and therefore cannot yet name an exact floor plan or similar.

By the way, the planner is only supposed to work on the preliminary building inquiry. When this is available, we would like to have initial discussions with various house construction companies after we have checked the financial framework with the bank. Is this the right order, or would you do it differently? We are still very unsure about this.

Best regards, Chrissy1508

Hello Chrissy,

you have a strange building authority there... ;)

I would suggest that you first make an appointment with your house bank with the background "What can we afford?".

In this conversation, where you do not yet have to present any documents for the planned house, the banker you trust will calculate which installment you can afford and what loan amount is feasible. It is helpful, however, if you could already bring a statement of your income and expenses to this meeting.

With this knowledge (possible loan amount + equity), you could then contact various house-building companies to get an initial offer. For these appointments, I recommend making a "wish list" of everything your house should have (which rooms, size, heating technology, etc.). It would also be helpful if you already had a development plan with you or had received information from the building authority that construction according to §34 (adapted to the surrounding development) is allowed.

I would try to save myself the extra planner for the preliminary inquiry if possible.

Regards,

Dirk

Hello,

But we still don't know if the plot may be built on at all. Inquiries at the responsible building authority have so far only resulted in the statement that no appointments are made to discuss the project, but only a preliminary building application can be submitted by a planner to have it checked. Verbally, we were only told on the phone, after a brief look at the parcel plan, that at first glance there is nothing visible that could stand in the way of approval.

Not as rare as some might think; increasingly so in the course of the current construction boom. On the other hand – from my point of view – understandable; this matter is difficult to resolve over the phone.

BUT – your building authority also has public office hours; probably Tuesday and/or Thursday. Take your parents' cadastral excerpt and some time and make your way to the building authority. In a personal conversation, it can surely be clarified whether a division and subsequent building are possible or not. And remember – the person opposite you wants to be treated as you yourself would wish to be treated.

If the conversation ends with the desired result, proceed as the doc described.

Regards from the Rhineland

Hello,

You can roughly calculate about EUR 1,500.00 per sqm of living space as a median benchmark.

If you want to install a heat pump as a heating system, you should also install underfloor heating. The two components fit together almost perfectly. With "normal" radiators, you would either have to increase the flow temperature (making the heat pump uneconomical) or install special (more expensive) radiators (with a larger surface area).

A stove with a chimney draft is a nice thing, but on the one hand it costs a lot of money and also restricts the flexibility of the floor plan design, since it has to "fit" on all floors. Cheaper and almost without restrictions is one of these "Edelstahlspargel" that runs outside along the house wall. However, you have to like the look.

For me, in a solid house only a monolithic wall structure without [WDVS] would be an option, as I am not a fan of Styrofoam etc.

Is a prefabricated house in timber frame construction not an option for you? You could achieve the same insulation values with thinner walls (=> more living space with the same footprint).

I would postpone the question of with or without basement in your place until the soil survey is available. Depending on the soil condition, a basement does not necessarily have to be more expensive than a slab foundation if corresponding additional foundation costs would occur.

Regards,

Dirk

Ah ok thanks Dirk for the additional info. :-)
Are the 1500 €/m² only to be applied for the shell construction?
Um, what is a stainless steel asparagus?? (*dumb question*)
I think my friend insists on solid construction because he places great value on sound insulation, and with solid walls (KSS is to be installed inside), it is better than timber frame construction, right?
The larger floor area is not the problem since the plot is big enough. Or was the note more about the costs?
Ok so a basement could even be sensible for the sloping plot if it wouldn't be much more expensive than a slab. Who calculates the price difference for us based on the soil values, the architect?
I think my questions are increasing rather than decreasing. ;-)

Best regards
Chrissy

Hello,

Could someone please help me with an initial rough cost estimate?
The house is to be built in Saxony in the district of Mittelsachsen.
Desired is a single-family house with about 120 m² of living space with a gable roof without a basement or garage/carport and also without dormers, bay windows, or similar.
Underfloor heating would be nice but not essential, however, a fireplace is definitely desired and an open kitchen-living area. In addition, we would like a utility room (also for heating technology) and a guest WC possibly with a shower on the ground floor and a bathroom, bedroom, and two children's rooms on the upper floor.

Dirk mentioned €1,500.00/sqm to you; from my experience, the value can be set lower in your region. "Still", the commercial sector is already expanding into "B" and "C" areas; it is therefore only a matter of time before construction prices for the private sector follow.

I would estimate that the above wishes can be realized for around €170,000 (Kfw 70). Plus costs for the plot, incidental construction costs, costs for chimney and stove, costs for painting and flooring work, outdoor facilities, and reserves for extras.

We would like to build solid with Poroton bricks without extra ETICS, so relatively thick walls (36 cm?). Then you could do without controlled residential ventilation, right?

"You can" do many things, whether it is advisable is another matter entirely. My recommendation these days is always to rather do without the garage than without a ventilation system ;)

Rhenish regards