Prefab house or solid house - experiences and recommendations?

You can recognize professionals by the fact that they work as little as possible in the subjunctive. You have no plot of land and a budget idea that, depending on the plot, leaves little for the construction. Possibly, the professionals were unsympathetic to you because they wanted to spend little time on you. If you were also at a model home exhibition on a Saturday and that is where your impression comes from, that is no wonder at all.

First, focus on the right plot of land and start from there. Mentally set aside €400k for the construction. If the plot cannot be acquired for €100k including incidental costs, you can already prepare to shorten your wish list or increase the budget.

Collect ideas for your house everywhere and note down what you like – that is great, and visits to model homes are also fun. Do not expect serious conversations and just collect information.

By the way, turnkey can also be done excellently with some carpentry companies.

We have meanwhile met several people here in the region who have built with Nordhaus from Kürten. That seems to run very fairly, cooperatively, and without hassle.

What kind of information is that?

In the end, three providers (Allkauf Haus, Okal Haus, and Bien-Zenker) remained in the running and after further research on the internet (reviews, groups on FB, etc.), the two providers of the DFH ended up extremely questionable for us, because you pick up so much negative stuff

Why are these companies still left when the reviews are negative?

Both openly and honestly communicated that additional construction incidental costs (approx. 25-40k), land costs (since we do not have one yet) + incidental purchase costs (notary, land registry entry, and property transfer tax = approx. 10% of the land price + possibly broker commission) will be added.

If something like that is not named by the BU, it becomes critical: they are obliged to,

....voucher for flooring and stairs for special equipment...

Well then... they are giving something away...

the bonuses: a kitchen from 3 variants,

Wow...

garden package worth 6,000 euros included.

Great...

So we would be at a total price of 332,013.00 euros (including incidental construction costs),

Bargain!

We are talking about a house that is supposed to be 172 m²

Yeah. 172 sqm x ...
House costs 2022 380,000
+ incidental construction costs 40,000
+ outdoor facilities 30,000
+ garage/carport 10,000
+ flooring/electrical 20,000
= 480,000 €... Going well!
Only the building plot is missing. Bottrop, incl incidental purchase costs 150,000
630,000 €

Fancy a basement_

But probably the blue wonder will come during the selection, when you then have to dig deep into your pocket again ...

You experience the blue wonder when you take such offers as bonuses, packages, and vouchers seriously.

Hi Tobias, We are also currently in the planning stage and were actually thinking of exactly this type of construction. Why do you think it is not high quality? We are especially taken with the air-to-air heat pump. I am still very new to this topic. Actually, it is my husband's task... but to be able to join the conversation, I now want to inform myself. And does anyone here happen to have experience with Wolf Thermo Modules? Here, the walls also consist of styrofoam and concrete. Best regards, Helena

Hi Helena, I want to briefly address your questions now. As a construction beginner, I have dealt with the various service descriptions, read diligently in the forum, and there are other interesting media that provide information and experiences. Regarding the LLWP: air is not the ideal heat conductive component, so higher electricity consumption is possible. Furthermore, you can see outlets at the top of the room, which might be annoying. And you often read that especially in cold winters the indoor air is very dry. That is not exactly an ideal indoor climate. Personally, I want styrofoam out of the exterior wall at least, because I think somewhat ecologically and when the house has to be demolished, that stuff eventually becomes hazardous waste. The fact is that many other providers, for example, have wood fiber insulation as standard. In my opinion, in a direct comparison, that is the higher quality variant. This is my personal assessment and opinion and of course everyone can handle it differently in the end. Best regards Tobias

Hello, I would like to build a prefabricated house from Massa Haus (DFH Group) with my son. The preliminary discussion was OK. However, I have now heard from two acquaintances that Massa Haus offers no or insufficient service regarding construction supervision during the interior finishing (insulation and paneling are done by us), or generally when problems arise. The motto seems to be that once the purchase contract is signed, nobody can be found on the construction site anymore. I would be grateful for a response.

The preliminary discussion was OK.

On what do you base that?

(Insulation and paneling are carried out by us), [...] offers no or insufficient service. The motto is, once the purchase contract is concluded, no one can be got to the construction site anymore.

Then - which I do not see as a Massa Haus specialty - the contract is also fulfilled. The support of self-performers who want to complete the basic product "shell construction" cannot be customer service of the shell construction seller. You should check other providers who explicitly offer this additional service - these are possibly more to be found with "kit houses" than with "shell houses." Or you look for a shell or shell-plus general contractor; the muscle mortgage concept is not limited to timber frame construction. I would reconsider the choice of provider here and do not see any provider obliged to revise their concept based on the ideas of a customer who may have chosen the wrong solution.

The OP has not been seen since this topic was created ... Nevertheless: In the mentioned area (there is no "Kreis NRW" :rolleyes I would realistically calculate around 300 €/m² for the land - if you can even find one at all. For 500 m² that's already about 170,000 € including all purchase incidental costs. That leaves 330,000 € for a 170 m² house including everything ... never ever!