Painter's fleece vs. textured wallpaper vs. textured fleece wallpaper

Hello everyone,

we are about to start the painting work.

Our house was built with Ytong.
All walls (except bathrooms) currently have a smooth gypsum plaster.
The bathrooms have cement plaster.
The ceilings on the upper floor consist of gypsum board panels – on the ground floor they are concrete filigree ceilings, whose joints still need to be filled.

Actually, until recently we planned:
Hallway / entrance area / stairwell and possibly bathrooms with a rough, sanded, or fine felt plaster.
All ceilings (after appropriate primer) to be covered with woodchip non-woven wallpaper + painting.
All walls (after primer) with woodchip wallpaper + painting.

Now, about 1.5 weeks ago, we received the note from our drywallers that they ONLY use painting fleece and paint over it.
I understand that the painting fleece is used to mask possible small cracks (settlement cracks). Can this also be done with a woodchip wallpaper or a woodchip non-woven wallpaper?

Apart from the fact that I want to go to the hardware store this weekend to see if I like the (possibly textured) painting fleece, I am now unsure what makes more sense.

1. Only painting fleece + paint over.
2. As initially planned, woodchip non-woven wallpaper or woodchip wallpaper + paint.
3. Painting fleece and then woodchip (non-woven) wallpaper over it + paint.

Wouldn't option 3 be redundant?

Maybe someone can give me a tip about this, so I don’t buy twice or too much.

Thanks
f-pNo

Hello,

All walls (after primer) with woodchip wallpaper + paint.

I still consider this the best choice after moving into a new building.

I understand that the painter's fleece is used to mask possible small cracks (settlement cracks). Can this also be done with woodchip wallpaper or a woodchip fleece wallpaper?

Yes.

1. Painter's fleece only + paint over.
2. As originally planned, woodchip fleece wallpaper or woodchip wallpaper + paint.

Both work.

I always have to smile when I read about Q3 and above here. The vast majority of providers offer a single-layer gypsum ready plaster as interior plaster for living areas; the ceiling joints are filled, provided that filigree ceilings are used. This standard can be easily primed and then covered with woodchip wallpaper. I even have clients who have "only" primed and then painted with a thick paint (thicker paints cover small bubble inclusions quite well).

From my point of view, it is not necessary to apply Q3 or even Q4; it costs a lot of money and is rather counterproductive in new buildings due to settlement cracks, which will inevitably occur. It can always happen that the standard of the filled ceiling joints does not quite meet the eye of the "fussy" observer; in this case, sanding may be necessary. Basically, we recommend applying woodchip wallpaper for the first 2-3 years and only then thinking about other decorative measures for walls/ceilings.

Wouldn't variant 3 be double dipping?

Yes.

Rhenish greetings

I have to disagree a little. Woodchip wallpaper on paper backing does not hide cracks, and, honestly, woodchip wallpaper is no longer up-to-date, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I wouldn't want roughcast in the living area; you quickly end up with bloody elbows.

I like smooth walls and patterned wallpapers, used selectively as feature walls.

Regards

Stefan

Is the woodchip non-woven wallpaper a combination of woodchip wallpaper + painter's fleece and comparable in this matter. Or is the fleece content so low that the wallpaper is easier to hang (only the wall/ceiling has to be pasted), but not sufficient for possible crack concealment.

Something to make you smile: We will have Q3 skimmed and then have a latex paint applied on top. I'd rather have the cracks repaired every few months than tear down 700 sqm of woodchip wallpaper after 3 or 5 years and redo everything. More durable walls (stairwell/hallway) will get painter's fleece.

Raufaservlies is a wall covering, comparable to ordinary Raufaser, except that fleece, i.e. synthetic fibers, are used as the carrier. As a result, it is dimensionally stable and does not require a softening time.