Neighbor's lawsuit against approved building permit

  • Erstellt am 2015-09-19 14:11:15

Bauexperte

2015-09-20 23:54:30
  • #1
Good evening,


Interesting combination


What prompted you to let the BV lie dormant? Hopefully not unverified statements from unknown sources (internet)?

I find the neighbor’s approach puzzling, no question – a word between neighbors could surely have contributed to clarification/solution. From my point of view, you are overreacting to that.

Although I am not a lawyer, it is a fact that the building authority responsible for you has approved your building application – including exemptions from the development plan. Unless you received a written request to stop your BV, why did you order a construction stop?

I want to suggest two ways for you that can be pursued in parallel. Implement Eve’s good suggestion and also wait for the conversation with your lawyer. Even if there is a builder who has been in a similar situation, it is always the case with legal disputes that in the end a judgment is issued. From the perspective of the losing party, no justice is done. Meaning, comparable disputes do not necessarily lead to the same judgment.

Rhineland greetings
 

ypg

2015-09-21 00:08:59
  • #2


The guilty conscience, which is unfounded, nevertheless:



and of course the fear of one's own risk
 

Musketier

2015-09-21 06:49:38
  • #3
Whereas I can quite understand the neighbor’s frustration with the district office. You yourself apply for a stone wall one row higher and it doesn't get approved, and then suddenly the neighbors set up a "high-rise" next door (exaggeratedly speaking). I would probably be annoyed about that and swallow the frustration eventually, but some are a bit more quarrelsome and take it to court. You are now just the ones suffering because of it.
 

Blaine81

2015-09-21 09:04:56
  • #4

I might consider that advice after the lawyer appointment, maybe we'll find a way to come to some kind of agreement. After all, you’re supposed to be able to live next to each other afterwards.



The recommendation to put the construction site on hold came from the legal advisor at the district office, with whom I had a phone conversation in this context. This person also stated that any further construction is at our own risk (but they also understand that sometimes a stop is not easily possible). Our builder also recommended this to me (after he had again enquired with the district office regarding this).

It is definitely clear to me that the situations are not comparable, and I definitely do not expect the outcome of the lawsuit to be predicted here in the forum.



On the one hand, I can understand that, although the neighbor probably did not have the hillside problem, since he is located at the foot of the hill (even though I don’t exactly know what the original terrain looked like here, since it is a former building area). I also seem to recall that our builder/architect once mentioned that in the current development area most people need these exemptions because of the hillside location (the builder has already built at least two other houses here).
 

DG

2015-09-21 11:32:14
  • #5
This problem is unfortunately not an isolated case and is homegrown on the part of the building authorities.

In planning, it is indeed possible to decouple the planning height from the original ground level and work with reasonable target heights. This means more effort in preparing the development plan, but it is especially helpful when the standard of 1m does not get you anywhere.

Since there are no [Baulasteintragungen] in Bavaria (which would presumably be necessary in other federal states), it can lead to the registration of an easement here, which may become obsolete after completion. This depends on whether the neighbor would have had to be involved in the formulated deviation by consent/signature or not and how this is presented structurally.

The situation is therefore pretty bad for you, but the black Peter lies with the building authority, even if they will probably tell you otherwise.

Regards Dirk Grafe
 

SirSydom

2015-09-24 17:28:09
  • #6
Without knowing for sure, I am of the opinion that if the approval should later be invalidated, it is not you who bears the risk, but the approval authority ("official liability").
It is also clear that the district office tells you to continue building "at your own risk," because in case of doubt the district office has to pay. They would be "stupid" to advise someone to build and then pay for it themselves. Or do you have that in writing?

You should clarify this point again with your legal advisor, if that has not already been done.

Furthermore, I would rack my brain about how to make the plaintiff an offer that he cannot refuse.
 

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