Multi-family house with 6 residential units - Current status and next steps

  • Erstellt am 2020-05-14 07:23:32

nordanney

2020-05-14 13:37:08
  • #1

This can only be said if you roughly know the costs and at the same time know what revenues you can generate. Otherwise, no statement can be made.

In normal cities, the rent must be at least €10 + x for it to be worthwhile. Therefore, in the Ruhr area there is hardly any new construction activity (on the one hand, lots of vacant apartments that are in poor condition, on the other hand, a big housing shortage for decent housing – but only low rents achievable).
 

Pinky0301

2020-05-14 14:30:10
  • #2
Find your concept or approach a bit strange: You have no idea about the costs, but you already know that it will/must be worth it, otherwise you wouldn’t build it. You are planning very precisely (e.g. how many residential units there will be, which KfW class), but you don’t even know how you are going to implement it.
 

11ant

2020-05-14 15:54:35
  • #3

Then you talked to the wrong ones. How can one decide to have 6 residential units without any knowledge? – because that should be determined by the expert, how many units can actually make sense. Look at how does it, that’s the right way: you absolutely must take an architect with experience; a multi-family house is not something for single-family house architects. The latter usually botch things conceptually in such cases and fiddle together symmetrical two-apartment buildings with uniform standard (which can almost be considered a sign of incompetence). One never takes a general contractor instead of an architect, but you should always leave it up to the architect to consider including GCs in the tender.

If the ownership community already consists of this constellation “Person 1 and their potential common heirs 1A and 1B,” one would have to be crazy not to bring the shares into a property company with the identical shareholders. However, a GbR is a partnership under civil law. You should also seek inheritance tax advice about this.
 

HilfeHilfe

2020-05-15 06:38:34
  • #4


well you are funny you come here into the forum, pick up arguments and you want us to plan everything for you

I would have liked to hear from you whether it’s worth it

Otherwise there are specialists who charge for this.
 

nevermore

2020-05-15 14:53:06
  • #5
Hello everyone,

first of all, thanks for the many responses. I will try to shed some light on the matter...

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- We have already had consultation appointments with the building authority, and since we are building on a street where previously only single-family houses stood and now slowly multi-family houses with 5-6 units are emerging, we were assured that 6 residential units is the absolute limit. This brings me to the second point...
- We have a buildable area of about 210m² and are allowed to build 2.5 stories. No floor area ratio. According to the architect, this results in about 144m² of rentable living space each on the ground floor and 1st floor, and another 110m² on the 2nd floor = 450m² (including creditable area). In the basement, one could realize an additional 65-75m² = 520m² (excluding creditable area such as terrace, balcony).
- The previous offers for KFW 55 were approximately between €2,400-2,600/m² without basement, with basement in a white tank & basement living area rather €3,100-3,400/m².
- From similar plots/objects in the neighborhood, we know that rental costs of at least €14/m² can be realized.
- Support from the tax advisor will be obtained shortly.

Profitability:
- The calculated total capital return is about 3% without basement, return on equity about 8%. With basement, the total capital return is slightly lower and return on equity slightly higher (without appreciation).
From what value would one say that it is worth it here?
 

nordanney

2020-05-15 15:44:24
  • #6

Including construction incidental costs, architect, etc.?

How was this calculated? (8% equity return is too low for such a project)

Please keep in mind that there will be a decent condition for external financing. The lending value will be only about €1.4 million (for the variant with a basement).
 

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