Land question...

  • Erstellt am 2013-11-06 16:06:07

BauPaar

2013-11-06 16:06:07
  • #1
Hello,

since we are still in the phase of "we are looking for a plot, and after that we will go into the detailed house planning," we do not yet have an architect or even a site manager, but are still muddling through ourselves (right before the purchase of the plot it would probably be different).

Now we have been offered a plot which, on the one hand, lies 2.5m below the road surface level (access 'to the back' to the parking spaces with a 15% ramp, which I find quite steep), and on the other hand, the following points in the building permit, which the seller sent as info about the plot, made us a bit unsettled:

- for the construction project, precautionary structural protection measures (...) against soil gases are required.
- The plot lies [...] in an area with an increased background contamination of the topsoil with heavy metals, arsenic, and sulfate. Therefore, ... increased disposal costs ... must be expected.

And even the word "pile foundation" makes the cost plan explode in our heads - it appears both in "soil according to DIN 1054" as well as in "condition and load-bearing capacity according to DIN 1054 section 4" - can this really become a cost issue for us?

I also see some errors (probably carelessness?) in the building application, here often a different address than that of the actual plot is given (e.g. in the building description)...

Finally, I am puzzled as to why a building application approved only a few weeks ago is now not going to be built; besides this one, at least one other house was planned on the (steep) plot. It *could* be that problems are now emerging, so that the former builder is withdrawing from the plan and just wants to get rid of the plot quickly - maybe I see this too pessimistically, but that's how it is.Thanks for

your opinions,

Maik.
 

Der Da

2013-11-06 16:26:09
  • #2
I see very high costs.... be glad that the seller here is so honest.

Pile foundation is expensive, soil replacement is expensive, disposal even more expensive, and 15% is really something...
Add a lifting system to your planning :) Also expensive :)

If I read this without having seen the property: stay away.
 

f-pNo

2013-11-06 17:03:28
  • #3
I can only say the same: hands off!

You would be taking on a financial risk that you currently cannot assess.
Da has already nicely mentioned the points.

Soil replacement – the question is completely open as to how deep you have to go. 50 cm? 1 m? 2 m?
Will you then have a satisfactory result, or do you have to expect that, in the long term, the harmful substances will come back up and significantly affect the health of you / your children?
The specification for the pile foundation is probably also due to this. But maybe there is also still a "problem" with the soil condition ("non-load-bearing material at x cm").

This risk would be too high for me and probably (as you have already suspected) broke the current owner’s neck. Better keep looking around.

off topic: My 100th post. Didn’t think at first that I would write so much here in such a short time. :cool:
 

BauPaar

2013-11-06 17:06:11
  • #4
so a so-called T-property - T as in expensive, T as in "not good" (at least not for us)...

Thanks for the assessment!
 

ypg

2013-11-06 21:49:03
  • #5
Free is still too expensive :rolleyes:
 

BauPaar

2014-11-06 23:51:47
  • #6
Update: the property is, if I have seen it correctly, still being offered - partly also through agents ;)
 

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