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2018-12-30 19:19:32
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Hello everyone, I have been following for a while now and am amazed at the large participation in this forum. I hope that you can/will also help me with my concerns.
First of all, this is about the plot planning without going into much detail about a floor plan. In other words, how is the plot best developed, which orientation and location of the building(s) makes sense.
The plot is located in the town center and is currently developed with an old small corner single-family house (year of construction unknown, 19th century), which my girlfriend and I currently live in. In the middle area there is a semi-open shed/barn/stable which currently only serves as a carport. This is completely bricked towards the neighbor. In the rear (westernmost) part of the plot, there was a barn standing until about 15 years ago which was demolished. Currently, only a carport and an old metal garage are set up here. The street to the east is the main street of the town (30 km/h zone) and is quite busy during rush hour. Furthermore, a tram runs here (stop right next door). The street to the north is not as heavily trafficked, but still well frequented.
As we both now slowly want to start a family, we want to change our living situation. The existing house would need to be completely renovated and has an unfavorable floor plan. Therefore, and because of the disadvantageous street location for us, our idea is to tear down the shed in the middle of the plot and build a single-family house approximately in this location. During the construction phase, we can continue to live in the house. The old residential house could then be demolished afterwards to build another house with two residential units as noise protection.
Now to the questionnaire:
Development plan/restrictions
- State: Baden-Württemberg
- Size of the plot: 445m2 (approx. 10x45m)
- Slope: No
- Floor area ratio / plot ratio: no development plan available
- Building window, building line and boundary: Generally, for new buildings, distance areas to neighbors must be observed (minimum 2.5m). No distance areas must be observed towards the streets. The plot can be built on its entire width east/west.
- Edge development: It is quite conceivable to discuss a mutual building obligation with the southern neighbor. We have already tested the waters in a short conversation.
- Number of parking spaces: There is a parking space ordinance stipulating 1.5 parking spaces per residential unit.
- Number of floors: According to neighborhood development: 2 full floors with basement and developed attic
- Roof shape: no restrictions
- Style: no restrictions
- Orientation: no specifications, lighting should naturally be sufficient.
- Maximum heights/limits: According to neighborhood development: eaves heights approx. 7.5m
Requirements of the builders
- Style, roof shape, building type: Classic, simple, cubic, gable roof.
- Basement, floors: no basement, 2 full floors with attic (as storage space / expansion reserve)
- Number of persons, age: Currently 2 adults (28 + soon 32) + planning for 2 children if all goes well.
- Room requirements: Ground floor: kitchen with pantry, dining, living room, technical room/storage, small shower bathroom. Upper floor: 3 rooms + bathroom Attic: expansion reserve, storage room.
- Balcony, roof terrace: not desired since garden is available.
Plot design:
Planning by: own ideas.
What do you particularly like? Why?:
Optimal use of space. A lot of living space can be created. Shielding of noise by the two-family house.
Possible rental income which could finance the new construction of the two-family house itself.
Entrance to the single-family house from the courtyard. Children do not jump directly onto the street.
Direct ground-level exit to the garden.
What do you not like? Why?:
No light in the single-family house from the south, little light from the east.
There is a risk with the building obligation that a house will be attached to the single-family house to the south, which exceeds the building structure to the west by 2-3 meters -> less light in the house.
Personal price limit for the single-family house, including equipment: desirable but probably not feasible around €350k.
Why did the design turn out the way it is now?:
Basically, there are two considerations that occupy us:
1. Build with or without border distance to the southern neighbor?
Pro border distance:
- Light also from the south, since windows are possible
- No building obligation -> neighbor must also observe distances when building.
Pro direct border development:
- Neighbor cannot look directly into house/garden.
- No narrow garden strip which can hardly be used.
- Larger garden area
- Better use of space
- Noise shielding towards the main street
2. In the middle of the plot or towards the neighbor to the west:
Pro west:
- Shed can remain.
Pro middle:
- Noise shielding towards the main street
- Neighbor cannot look directly into house/garden.
- Western sun in the garden
What is the most important/basic question for the planning summarized in 130 characters?
What do you think of the planned development with the front two-family house.
What is your opinion on border building yes or no?
Best regards, Gunnar.

First of all, this is about the plot planning without going into much detail about a floor plan. In other words, how is the plot best developed, which orientation and location of the building(s) makes sense.
The plot is located in the town center and is currently developed with an old small corner single-family house (year of construction unknown, 19th century), which my girlfriend and I currently live in. In the middle area there is a semi-open shed/barn/stable which currently only serves as a carport. This is completely bricked towards the neighbor. In the rear (westernmost) part of the plot, there was a barn standing until about 15 years ago which was demolished. Currently, only a carport and an old metal garage are set up here. The street to the east is the main street of the town (30 km/h zone) and is quite busy during rush hour. Furthermore, a tram runs here (stop right next door). The street to the north is not as heavily trafficked, but still well frequented.
As we both now slowly want to start a family, we want to change our living situation. The existing house would need to be completely renovated and has an unfavorable floor plan. Therefore, and because of the disadvantageous street location for us, our idea is to tear down the shed in the middle of the plot and build a single-family house approximately in this location. During the construction phase, we can continue to live in the house. The old residential house could then be demolished afterwards to build another house with two residential units as noise protection.
Now to the questionnaire:
Development plan/restrictions
- State: Baden-Württemberg
- Size of the plot: 445m2 (approx. 10x45m)
- Slope: No
- Floor area ratio / plot ratio: no development plan available
- Building window, building line and boundary: Generally, for new buildings, distance areas to neighbors must be observed (minimum 2.5m). No distance areas must be observed towards the streets. The plot can be built on its entire width east/west.
- Edge development: It is quite conceivable to discuss a mutual building obligation with the southern neighbor. We have already tested the waters in a short conversation.
- Number of parking spaces: There is a parking space ordinance stipulating 1.5 parking spaces per residential unit.
- Number of floors: According to neighborhood development: 2 full floors with basement and developed attic
- Roof shape: no restrictions
- Style: no restrictions
- Orientation: no specifications, lighting should naturally be sufficient.
- Maximum heights/limits: According to neighborhood development: eaves heights approx. 7.5m
Requirements of the builders
- Style, roof shape, building type: Classic, simple, cubic, gable roof.
- Basement, floors: no basement, 2 full floors with attic (as storage space / expansion reserve)
- Number of persons, age: Currently 2 adults (28 + soon 32) + planning for 2 children if all goes well.
- Room requirements: Ground floor: kitchen with pantry, dining, living room, technical room/storage, small shower bathroom. Upper floor: 3 rooms + bathroom Attic: expansion reserve, storage room.
- Balcony, roof terrace: not desired since garden is available.
Plot design:
Planning by: own ideas.
What do you particularly like? Why?:
Optimal use of space. A lot of living space can be created. Shielding of noise by the two-family house.
Possible rental income which could finance the new construction of the two-family house itself.
Entrance to the single-family house from the courtyard. Children do not jump directly onto the street.
Direct ground-level exit to the garden.
What do you not like? Why?:
No light in the single-family house from the south, little light from the east.
There is a risk with the building obligation that a house will be attached to the single-family house to the south, which exceeds the building structure to the west by 2-3 meters -> less light in the house.
Personal price limit for the single-family house, including equipment: desirable but probably not feasible around €350k.
Why did the design turn out the way it is now?:
Basically, there are two considerations that occupy us:
1. Build with or without border distance to the southern neighbor?
Pro border distance:
- Light also from the south, since windows are possible
- No building obligation -> neighbor must also observe distances when building.
Pro direct border development:
- Neighbor cannot look directly into house/garden.
- No narrow garden strip which can hardly be used.
- Larger garden area
- Better use of space
- Noise shielding towards the main street
2. In the middle of the plot or towards the neighbor to the west:
Pro west:
- Shed can remain.
Pro middle:
- Noise shielding towards the main street
- Neighbor cannot look directly into house/garden.
- Western sun in the garden
What is the most important/basic question for the planning summarized in 130 characters?
What do you think of the planned development with the front two-family house.
What is your opinion on border building yes or no?
Best regards, Gunnar.