Is the variant of very high lift sliding door system statically feasible?

  • Erstellt am 2023-04-18 09:55:31

SuziundMike

2023-04-18 09:55:31
  • #1
Hello everyone,
We are building a house with a developer and are currently selecting the windows and patio doors.
The house has a very large window area in the living room. Width approx. 4.80 m and height approx. 3.40 m.
The construction description provides for a total of 8 window and door elements here - four large elements at the bottom with two tilt-and-turn doors in the middle - and four small elements above them with two tilt windows in the middle.
Since the two tilt-and-turn doors protrude far into the living room when opened and make sensible furnishing difficult, we have already been offered two central sliding doors as a special request (see plan).


Our preferred variant:
However, when we look at our future walkways from the living room out into the garden, a central opening is not practical for us as furniture will be placed there. We need side openings (seen from outside on the left at pos 1 and on the right at pos 4), so basically two “reversed” sliding door elements.
Or just one sliding door on the far left and the rest fixed.
According to the window manufacturer, this is not feasible for static reasons.
I’ve drawn how I imagine it - is this really not feasible? What do you think?



Thanks in advance for your answers.
Best regards
Suzi
 

xxsonicxx

2023-04-18 11:51:05
  • #2
So I wouldn't know why that shouldn't work!???...because of the skylights? ...besides...can't doesn't exist ;-)
 

Harakiri

2023-04-18 13:19:01
  • #3
Just ask why it shouldn't work - is it because the elements without skylights are too tall? Or do you want to keep the skylights, but the skylight frames aren't stable enough for the lift-and-slide door elements below?

Regarding the opening scheme: what also works (for example, we have it) is three-part - fixed in the middle, openable on the left and right. In my opinion, it also looks better visually, especially because you don't have that much width. For us, the bigger problem is that the two movable elements are actually almost too heavy to operate by hand, but we also have about 1.2 meters more width (but significantly lower).
 

Harakiri

2023-04-18 13:23:57
  • #4
Addendum: your opening scheme (K) should also be possible – at least with common lift-and-slide door profiles/system suppliers.
 

rick2018

2023-04-18 14:23:09
  • #5
Of course, something like that is possible. Even with much larger windows…
 

SuziundMike

2023-04-18 18:25:02
  • #6
We have already asked. Our problem is that we cannot choose the window manufacturer and cannot speak directly with the window manufacturer – everything goes through the builder. He told us today that it is possible – but twice as expensive as the previously offered variant with the two centrally opening sliding doors. When we asked why this is so, the answer was that this variant is structurally more difficult. And when we asked exactly what is structurally more difficult here, the answer was “that’s just how it is”…‍ We now have to think about what to do. Things are not looking good at the moment. Addendum: Oh yes – my drawing only shows the lower part of the window system, by the way. The upper four “transom windows” are to remain. The builder also wants to keep the symmetry here, so a three-part sliding door system is not an option.
 

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