Install controlled residential ventilation because of misinformation?

For the house construction, we had to install a small water supply system for drinking water. Furthermore, in Saxony it is mandatory to provide proof of firefighting water. The Municipal Waterworks Leipzig ([Controlled Residential Ventilation]) stated in the building application that they cannot provide firefighting water at our construction site. The pressure in the pipes would need to be increased, but then the old pipes would burst, and that’s not feasible. Therefore, we installed over 20m³ water cisterns for the fire department’s initial attack. These things don’t cost a fortune, but 4000,-€ are still gone.

Now we have received the drinking water connection and boom, lo and behold, they installed a hydrant! It’s not quite clear yet why and what it’s doing there now, but if they are now providing firefighting water after all, I am furious.

Now the question is, do I sue them for misinformation over the 4000 euros that I would have spent for nothing? Is it worth it? Has anyone ever had a similar problem?

By the way, they planted the sign for this thing almost 2 meters into our property. That thing is pure mockery to me. Do I have to tolerate it there, or can I demand at least that it be moved to the roadside? *grumble*

Hello!

You have to tolerate the sign. I would only engage in a legal dispute if you have [RSV] and it also accepts/wants to pursue the lawsuit. Without [RSV], nothing will come of it in the end, for example, if you only win the lawsuit 70/30 and the proportional costs for the lawyer and expert (!) exceed the lawsuit proceeds. Then you have nothing to gain except trouble.

Best regards

Hello,

For the house construction, we had to set up a small water supply connection for drinking water. Additionally, in Saxony it is mandatory to provide proof of firefighting water. The Municipal Waterworks Leipzig (controlled residential ventilation) stated in the building application that they cannot provide firefighting water at our building site. The pressure in the pipes would have to be increased, then the old pipes would burst and that is not possible. Therefore, we installed over 20m³ water cisterns for the initial attack by the fire brigade at our place. These things don’t cost the world, but €4000 is still gone.

Orally or in writing?

Now we have received the drinking water connection and boom, lo and behold, they installed a hydrant as well!!! It’s not entirely clear yet why and what it’s doing there now, but if they do provide firefighting water now, I am furious.

Then you should clarify that first and only then be angry

Now the question is, do I sue them for misinformation for the €4000 I would have wasted? Is it worth it?
Has anyone ever had a similar problem?

I simply assume now that you do not have legal expenses insurance that would be willing to take on municipal institutions?

I also generally find it counterproductive to threaten immediately with the "big stick." First, go to the Controlled Residential Ventilation and clarify the details. If the hydrant is actually there for firefighting water, then you should bring up the cost issue and hear what solutions are offered to you. Usually there are people there too and within their means they are mostly helpful.

By the way, they planted the sign for this thing almost 2m into our property. That thing is a pure mockery for me. Do I have to tolerate it there or can I demand that it at least be moved to the roadside? *grumble*

I think you have to tolerate it. With all due understanding for your annoyance – it’s not that bad and it will likely be removed again; you also do not yet live in the new house

Rhenish greetings

Oral or written?

Of course written.

Then you should clarify that first and only then rage

Yes, that's true, but who can stay calm about that?

I'll just assume that you don't have legal expenses insurance that would be willing to take on municipal institutions?

No, but a relative is a "star lawyer," we could definitely ask her.

I generally find it counterproductive to threaten directly with the "big stick." First, go to the controlled residential ventilation and clarify the details. If the hydrant is actually ready for firefighting water, you should bring up the cost issue and hear what solutions are offered to you. Usually, there are people there, and within their means, they are mostly helpful.

Ha! It’s like in Russia here. The top people in controlled residential ventilation were all caught a few years ago for corruption or embezzlement or something like that, well, the usual. But that probably makes things even more hopeless.

I also think you have to tolerate it. With all due understanding for your anger—it's really not that bad, and it will presumably be removed again; you don’t live in the new house yet either

The sign stays forever—there's no changing that. Well, let's see, I'll talk to them first. Maybe there is a simple explanation after all.

Hello,

Of course in writing.

That’s already a good start!

Ha! It’s like in Russia here. The top people of Controlled Residential Ventilation were all busted a few years ago for corruption or embezzlement or something like that, well, the usual stuff. That probably makes things even more hopeless.

If it comforts you, things weren’t any different in the West after World War II either, or what do you think, how the personnel were assigned?

If heads have already rolled, the authority should handle further decisions more sensitively. So just get advice from the top lawyer and first go to Controlled Residential Ventilation alone. If you don’t get anywhere, you can always bring out heavier artillery.

Rhenish regards

Hello,

what, they seriously put the hydrant sign two meters from the street onto your property?

Apart from whether one has to tolerate that or not, I at least dare to question the meaningfulness.

These signs are basically meant for the fire department to help them locate the hydrant even in snow or similar conditions on the street - so what use is the sign if, in the worst case, the firefighter first has to fight through two meters of hedge/bushes just to be able to decipher the sign?

For this reason, these signs are usually attached to street lamps or street signs...

Cheers,

Dirk