Green area, conversion to building land and land parceling

  • Erstellt am 2021-11-09 16:28:44

susi999

2021-11-09 16:28:44
  • #1
I hereby hope for your experience and expertise.

In our neighboring community, a meadow (approx. 3000 sqm) is for sale. A development plan for this property is available.
The text section of the development plan states the following:
For the parcel, the type of use is designated as private green space (specified as orchard meadow). Upon expiration of the usufruct and at the request of the respective owner, the parcel will become part of the general residential area.
According to the owner, the usufruct has been terminated.
What does this mean for me when purchasing the area?
Can I buy the meadow without having to fear that it will later only have the value of a green space?

I would like to buy the area together with six other interested builders. For this, a measurement of the meadow and a subdivision would be necessary in advance so that we could purchase the plots individually.
Is this theoretically even possible? The seller would agree.
What surveying costs would we face here? I would simply need a rough estimate in advance, in what range it would be (2000 €, 5000 €, 10,000 €, 25,000 €).

Does anyone know how the process proceeds in the desired procedure? The building authority has informed us that an architect must be involved, which of course makes sense to me. However, we are currently still at the point where we want to clarify whether further effort is worthwhile at all and whether the costs would remain within limits. In addition, each builder will certainly want to build later with their own architect or their own company. That would mean we would have to divide the architectural services for the development in advance. How can one estimate how high the costs would be?

What additional development costs must I expect? A private road of 25 meters would definitely have to be planned to reach the individual building plots. The properties are located on a slope (lowest-highest point approx. 10 m difference in elevation).

Thank you very much for your efforts.
 

Grobmutant

2021-11-09 20:02:28
  • #2
Hi, we paid around €8200 in total for the surveying and division (new boundary stones) of an approximately 4000 m2 area into 4 plots plus a private road. Federal state: Niedersachsen.
 

K1300S

2021-11-09 20:09:29
  • #3
But that also depends on the standard land value. ?
 

11ant

2021-11-09 22:04:03
  • #4
By now you should actually know the procedure here and know that such a question requires a cadastral excerpt that is sufficiently large-scale to allow us to see the location of the property and its classification within the larger development area. Incidentally, I must admit I am slowly losing track: is this now your fourth or already your fifth project?

Three thousand square meters, minus twenty percent for the road area, so two thousand four hundred, divided by seven building applicants, averages about three hundred forty. Multiplied by floor area ratio/story area ratio 0.3/0.6 II or 0.2/0.3 I can mean between 200 or only 100 sqm of living space. Are your building partners’ preferences regarding E/D, suburban villa / settlement house, etc., identical? - such essentials you should b) have clarified with them and a) quote for us here from the development plan what it says about this. How sure are you actually that you will remain seven little [Negerlein]? - I could imagine that there will be conflicts over who gets which of the plots.

In general, this is a rather naive plan: in the example each "comrade" would have to acquire about 430 sqm in order to derive 340 for building and give up 90 for the road area. The banks have to cooperate with this, especially as the development also has to be pre-financed during the planning and construction phase. Do you all have such excellent creditworthiness that all your house banks will go along, even though none of you has experience as a development sponsor?

What does the municipality say about this anyway: don’t they want to exercise a right of first refusal? Sometimes I feel like you come here every time you have an idea, without reading in the other threads at all about what tunes are usually played in reality.
 

ypg

2021-11-09 23:32:13
  • #5
And daily the groundhog greets you :D

You pay what the property is worth. For meadow, you pay meadow, it has the value of a meadow. If it is a buildable plot, you pay that,
To make buildable plots out of it, you have to invest - then you will probably be in the average range like other comparable residential areas. That means, and I would rather call this an uncertain (big) factor x that differentiates a building plot from a meadow: the development. The private road and the surveying are included there.
If you buy it or show interest, take care and wait until everything is completed, 3 out of 6 families will have dropped out anyway.
The rest like . Dividing a big cake by 24 also does not satisfy. Besides, some may not really like the filling.
 

saralina87

2021-11-10 07:37:40
  • #6
I really appreciate your posts, but that is quite disturbing.
 

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