Garage? The agony of choice

  • Erstellt am 2016-03-11 14:00:31

SirSydom

2016-03-11 14:00:31
  • #1
When concluding our construction contract, we initially removed the garage because it was too expensive. (40,000€) It is included in the building permit (7x8m).

Now that the major risks are gone and the buffer is largely untouched, we are reconsidering the garage.
The fact is, since we don’t have a basement, we need a place – even when we move in – for bicycles, grill, garden furniture, lawnmower, winter tires, etc.

And even if our two children’s rooms and the bathroom are unused, I would prefer not to carry the dirty stuff up to the upper floor.
Although a lawnmower in the shower does have a certain decorative quality :wave

Anyway, I absolutely cannot decide HOW my garage should be built.

With a slab or with paving?
Slab smoothed with hard material scattering or with screed?
Solid masonry or possibly timber frame with fiber cement and plastered.
Massive concrete ceiling with flat roof, wooden beam ceiling with flat roof, or maybe a simple trapezoidal sheet/sandwich roof?

The garage is primarily intended for 2 cars and for bicycles and garden tools.
It should also be used to vacuum the car in winter or rain or perform repairs on cars, bicycles, etc. The directly adjacent workshop in the house is too small for big projects like furniture making – for that, you can leave the cars in the driveway for 2 weeks and realize your own ideas.

Tendencies:
- Strip foundations, shuttered at +0.30m. Slab with hard material scattering, trowel-smoothed and with slope (toward the gate)
Reason: for use as a workshop / work hall, paving is suboptimal IMO. A smooth floor is easier to clean and water/snow slush can be removed with a rubber squeegee.
To prevent rising damp in the walls, raise the strip foundations.

- On top, a timber frame construction with fiber cement panels outside and plastered, raw inside (can be clad, shelves built, etc. later)
Reason: cheaper (?) than plastered masonry on both sides, slimmer wall construction provides more space

- The roof just needs to keep out the rain.
I thought of trapezoidal sheet sandwich panels (against condensation inside).
But it must fit the house extension (1-story, flat roof with parapet).
Or wooden beams, board decking, bitumen membrane, and parapet with flashing?

What do you think??

 

Username_wahl

2016-03-11 19:49:37
  • #2
I would make the garage with a flat roof and extensively green both flat roofs.
 

MarcWen

2016-03-11 20:14:38
  • #3
I can gladly post what we are currently planning and want to build (double garage 6 x 9 meters). Integrated into our residential house, so that we will plan it firmly: (Prices net)


    [*]Shell of garage 70 euros/cbm 11,550 euros
    [*]Garage roof 115 euros/sqm 6,200 euros
    [*]Windows 400 euros
    [*]Sectional door + side entrance door 2,000 euros
    [*]Drive + electrics available and own work
    [*]Exterior plaster garage 50sqm at 45 euros 2,250 euros
    [*]without interior plaster
    [*]Screed garage 49sqm at 10 euros 490 euros
    [*]Floor coverings paint garage 800 euros
    [*]Planning 2,500 euros

Totals approximately ~30,000 euros gross in total.
 

Bauexperte

2016-03-11 21:08:16
  • #4
@ MarcWen

That's quite a bargain; you can get a prefabricated garage (flat roof) of the same size and equipment significantly cheaper.

Is there a reason it has to be a masonry garage?

Rhenish greetings from the road
Building expert
 

Sebastian79

2016-03-11 21:14:47
  • #5
Sectional door (isn't it 5m after all?) plus side entrance door you'll never get for 2000 euros...
 

MarcWen

2016-03-11 21:19:27
  • #6
:

Cheaper is always possible. But I'm afraid we are deviating from the standard.

This also includes the covered passage between the residential building and the garage. The ground floor rests on the garage (structural engineering?).
The balcony on the east side is also supported on the garage. I hardly believe that we need to put much thought into a prefabricated garage there.

The prices are from our initial planning. We first need to see if there is anything that can still be saved. The garage is included in the large pool for the residential building, so the civil engineer, shell builder, scaffolder, plasterer, etc. will come anyway.
 

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