First response from the architect!?

Hello, we have received an initial response from an architect (preliminary planning).

Basis:

120 m2 (bungalow, without basement, roof not developed with hipped roof)
double garage (solid construction, approx. 6x8m, unfortunately also with hipped roof)

Architect’s statement

Costs around €250,000 (equipment not considered, he adds)

This amount does not include the costs for outdoor facilities, furnishings, or incidental costs for planning, structural engineering, construction management, etc.

For incidental costs, you can expect about 15 to 20% of the construction costs.

So we had calculated about €200,000 but that the base or simple equipment should already cost so much really blows us away.

That makes a price per square meter of 250,000/120 m2 = €2083.33

Is all this correct!?

250K for a 120 sqm bungalow without a basement?

Sorry, but to me that already sounds kind of steep. Have you factored in golden faucets or something?

Just for comparison: we are building a Rötzer brick element house turnkey, including wall and floor work for 235K without a basement, but including the floor slab. Also a bungalow, but with an attic. Living space 161 sqm + 36 sqm unfinished attic.

Hello,

Costs around 250,000€

Is all that correct!?

How should one judge that if one does not know the framework conditions? Neither the design nor the actually applied standard.

How does the architect justify the costs that you consider too high?

Regards

Hello,

120 m2 (bungalow, without basement, roof not converted with hipped roof)

Double garage (solid construction, approx. 6x8m, unfortunately also with hipped roof)
Architect’s statement
Costs around €250,000 (equipment not considered, he adds)
This amount does not include the costs for the outdoor facilities, furnishings, or additional costs for planning, structural engineering, construction management, etc. You can assume additional costs of about 15 to 20% of the construction costs.

A bungalow is always more expensive to build than a classic single-family house; this is because everything must be built on one level and therefore, for example, the roof area is significantly larger.

With the parameters you mentioned – including normal equipment – you can expect costs starting from around €175,000 for the base slab as a KfW 70 efficiency house. Typical additional construction costs of around €30-35,000 as well as reserves for extras such as a new kitchen should be added.

Ask your architect how his calculation is composed, what he calculated and how. A curious question by the way: why didn’t you do that right away?

Kind regards

@ Häuslebauer

No, according to the email the architect first assumes the standard!

@ E.Curb

About a week ago, I was with my girlfriend at this architect’s office.
The initial meeting lasted a whole 20 minutes, after which, in my opinion, we were given the feeling that we were done now (Please leave) You will hear from me.

Discussion topics during the 20 minutes:

about 125 m2 (standard), double garage (about 6x8m) he didn’t want to know more. I then gave him the floor plan & development plan and that was the end of the conversation.

And now about a week later this email:

So it comes to around €250,000 (in standard) + incidental building costs + planning, structural engineering & construction management. Have a nice Sunday!

@ construction expert

I am now waiting for a response from the first architect, who wanted to list the construction costs (all the positions with the share of material & calculated labor costs). The reason was that I had announced I wanted to do a few things myself.

Although in the initial conversation he somehow came to 800 m3 (I didn’t quite understand that either, but I will ask about it next time).

Greetz
Kalle