Electrical installation - Retrofit switches/buttons wirelessly

  • Erstellt am 2020-06-21 12:47:49

bauenmk2020

2020-08-02 20:40:03
  • #1
Here is an example of a light switch. A brown cable (phase) goes into the switch and out again. The neutral conductor (blue) is not connected there at all but is clamped in a WAGO terminal (right in the picture).

Here is the wiring diagram of my actuator FL62-230V:

How do I best proceed here?
 

Mycraft

2020-08-03 11:13:21
  • #2
You have everything you need on this light switch. Simply follow the connection example and connect the actuator.
 

bauenmk2020

2020-08-05 07:16:06
  • #3

okay. Now it is like this: my electrician installed switches supposedly to hand over the house as "operational." With push buttons, "you would have to keep pressing for the light to stay on." Since I wanted to install the radio actuators myself, the electrician planned the switches. After handover, I would have to replace the switches with push buttons + radio actuators...
I'm really annoyed. Even though I constantly mentioned that we would use radio actuators, and even wanted to obtain them through the electrician - he said "you can do that yourself later"... I think now I know why...

Still, just for my understanding:
The radio actuator takes over the function of the conventional light switch - so the conventional light switch is only responsible for sending the PRESSED signal to the actuator?
What happens if my logic control is deactivated? How can a light switch as a push button still turn the lamp on/off? Does the radio actuator then take over as well (just directly instead of via radio)?
 

T_im_Norden

2020-08-05 07:39:04
  • #4
Yes, then the signal goes through directly, hence the wiring by the electrician. Look up Shelly 1 - installation / integration in a two-way switch.
 

Mycraft

2020-08-05 09:21:03
  • #5

Yes, and that is a good thing. Because you ordered a functional product and you are getting it as well. Just because you don’t order winter tires and want to put them on yourself, the car dealer will also not deliver the car on bare rims in December. No, summer tires will be included.


Yes, which in itself should not be a problem, because as we have already established from your pictures and statements, everything is prepared so far for the conversion.


He has his contractual terms and he must adhere to them.


Yes, that is basically how it works.


Don’t get so hung up on the light switches. In a functioning, more or less automated installation, they are truly the last fiddle. The actuator takes over everything, the entire control (relating to this one lighting group).

Then it only reacts to the impulses from outside. These can come from push-buttons, switches, sensors, logic, phone, etc. The actuator processes these impulses and performs the appropriate actions.
 

T_im_Norden

2020-08-05 10:16:32
  • #6
I looked at your first post again. Your wiring is conventional according to your description and not star. Therefore, a push button can only work if there is an actuator inside, otherwise you need a switch. What does the order say for the electrician, push button or switch?
 

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