Der Storch
2019-08-21 19:43:15
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Hello to the experts in this round,
I find myself in the following dilemma and need your objective assessment:
Due to extremely unfavorable circumstances from the extended family circle, there was a long-lasting significant imbalance.
Through thriftiness and discipline, we are now almost out of the valley, i.e. the last remaining 35K of 300K will be repaid early on 15.10.2019 and thus have no obligations left, no car leasing or anything similar.
The credit report is clean and strictly monitored, it is practically my quarterly motivation booster, let's see if we can make it to 99%, currently at 98.48%.
We have long wished for a house and urgently want to get out of Frankfurt, keeping in mind that the conditions in kindergartens and schools are catastrophic, there are certainly exceptions in well-to-do districts, but then one does not even have to think about a house anymore.
We have currently found something suitable, it is about a RHM, 30 minutes driving time from the workplace and a completely relaxed area, some may find it boring there, for us it is a dream.
The whole thing is currently in the marketing phase, the semi-detached house was apparently gone within a week, the rest sells like hotcakes, in total it is about 50 little houses.
To keep my chance, I made a reservation after multiple viewings and conversations with residents of the 1st construction phase, paying 3K, which will be credited upon conclusion of the contract, but if you withdraw, 500 € are deducted as administrative costs. To preserve the chance, the 500 € were worth it to me, everything seems to fit for us at first glance.
The notarized contracts are scheduled for winter 2019 according to the developer, the construction time should be between 12 and 15 months, so that occupancy in late 2020, early 2021 is possible, I assume with a buffer of +- 2-3 months, depending on how well everything goes etc.
It is a classic terraced middle house with 5 rooms, 141 sqm and +- 130-140 sqm plot, all according to WEG as a KFW 55 house with utilization of the KFW loans regarding financing.
This is somehow a pretty extensive post, I hope someone reads it
Our income situation compared side by side is also significant, therefore presented in a list with multiple sections and calculated very conservatively, without bonuses, tax refunds, solidarity surcharge removal etc.
My concern is to plan for bad times, i.e. if I unexpectedly become unemployed, then the unemployment benefit I (ALG1) will still cover the financing and a few extras + my wife's income, with which one could survive a certain dry spell if it gets tight.
We want to be done with the whole project in 15-18 years, possibly KFW 3 years interest-only and pay the other loan higher depending on the interest rate etc.
I know it would be better in every respect with saved equity, but at the moment the problem is rather that building costs and the availability of properties are actually getting worse and I have had to watch for the last 3 years how the whole thing continues to climb.
After the repayment of the last obligation in October, I am for the first time even remotely able to get financing. A preliminary inquiry with a Postbank consultant had already signaled green light, but with a corresponding interest surcharge.
I will of course treat the whole thing as a tender so that there are comparisons from different sources, and we have also already decided that professional help will definitely be involved for contracts etc., I think the money is well invested and I have no idea, not my field and you cannot just casually read up on it.
So, now I have really laid my cards on the table, I hope this will not bite me in the behind
For all those who have made it this far, thank you for still having the patience and curiosity to read such treatises. I look forward to objective and honest feedback, of course, there is always a lot also between the lines regarding development etc., but that would go beyond the scope, haha.
Best regards
Family Storch
I find myself in the following dilemma and need your objective assessment:
Due to extremely unfavorable circumstances from the extended family circle, there was a long-lasting significant imbalance.
Through thriftiness and discipline, we are now almost out of the valley, i.e. the last remaining 35K of 300K will be repaid early on 15.10.2019 and thus have no obligations left, no car leasing or anything similar.
The credit report is clean and strictly monitored, it is practically my quarterly motivation booster, let's see if we can make it to 99%, currently at 98.48%.
We have long wished for a house and urgently want to get out of Frankfurt, keeping in mind that the conditions in kindergartens and schools are catastrophic, there are certainly exceptions in well-to-do districts, but then one does not even have to think about a house anymore.
We have currently found something suitable, it is about a RHM, 30 minutes driving time from the workplace and a completely relaxed area, some may find it boring there, for us it is a dream.
The whole thing is currently in the marketing phase, the semi-detached house was apparently gone within a week, the rest sells like hotcakes, in total it is about 50 little houses.
To keep my chance, I made a reservation after multiple viewings and conversations with residents of the 1st construction phase, paying 3K, which will be credited upon conclusion of the contract, but if you withdraw, 500 € are deducted as administrative costs. To preserve the chance, the 500 € were worth it to me, everything seems to fit for us at first glance.
The notarized contracts are scheduled for winter 2019 according to the developer, the construction time should be between 12 and 15 months, so that occupancy in late 2020, early 2021 is possible, I assume with a buffer of +- 2-3 months, depending on how well everything goes etc.
It is a classic terraced middle house with 5 rooms, 141 sqm and +- 130-140 sqm plot, all according to WEG as a KFW 55 house with utilization of the KFW loans regarding financing.
Position | Amount | Remarks |
House price | 368,000.00 € | |
House connection electricity, water, sewer | 5,000.00 € | |
Carport | 7,500.00 € | |
Sum | 380,500.00 € | |
Property transfer tax 6% | 22,830.00 € | Notarization planned for winter 2019, according to developer |
Notary costs 1.5 % | 5,708.00 € | Notarization planned for winter 2019, according to developer |
Land registry entry | 1,903.00 € | Notarization planned for winter 2019, according to developer |
Broker commission | - € | |
Total financing requirement | 410,941.00 € | excl. home furnishings, painting and flooring work and materials, as well as garden |
Own contribution | ||
Garden | 3,000.00 € | plus materials, not included |
Floor coverings | 5,000.00 € | plus materials, not included |
Wallpapering/painting | 7,000.00 € | plus materials, not included |
Equity | ||
Down payment/reservation | - 3,000.00 € | Will be credited against the land price |
Building savings contract | - 2,300.00 € | Terminate existing contract |
Cash funds | - 5,000.00 € | Can possibly be increased to 10,000.00 €. |
This is somehow a pretty extensive post, I hope someone reads it
Our income situation compared side by side is also significant, therefore presented in a list with multiple sections and calculated very conservatively, without bonuses, tax refunds, solidarity surcharge removal etc.
Situation | Husband | Wife | Child 1 | Child 2 |
until 11/2019 | Sole earner | Housewife | Adult, in training | 2 years |
Net income | 5,950.00 € | 0 | left out | |
Child benefit | 402.00 € | |||
Fixed costs, incl. rent (warm 830 €, cold 620 €) incl. 300 € additional buffer living expenses and miscellaneous | - 2,500.00 € | |||
Loan | - 1,337.00 € | |||
Available net income | 2,515.00 € | |||
Situation | Husband | Wife | Child 1 | Child 2 |
from 12/2019 | Sole earner | Housewife | Adult, in training | 2 years |
Net income | 5,950.00 € | |||
Child benefit | 402.00 € | |||
Fixed costs, incl. rent (warm 830 €, cold 620 €) incl. 300 € additional buffer living expenses and miscellaneous | - 2,500.00 € | |||
Available net income | 3,852.00 € | |||
Situation | Husband | Wife | Child 1 | Child 2 |
from 09/2020 | Part-time elderly care | Adult, in training | 3 years | |
Net income | 5,950.00 € | 800.00 € | left out | Kindergarten |
Child benefit | 402.00 € | Child benefit ends in 2021 | ||
Fixed costs, incl. rent (warm 830 €, cold 620 €) incl. 300 € additional buffer living expenses and miscellaneous | - 2,500.00 € | |||
Available net income | 4,652.00 € | |||
Situation | Husband | Wife | Child 1 | Child 2 |
from 01/2021 | Part-time elderly care | Adult, in training | 3 years | |
Net income | 5,950.00 € | 800.00 € | left out | Kindergarten |
Child benefit | 201.00 € | Child benefit ends in 2021 | ||
Fixed costs, including 300 € additional buffer living expenses and miscellaneous | - 1,700.00 € | |||
House fees and other incidental costs, administration etc. WEG | - 500.00 € | |||
Available net income | 4,751.00 € | |||
Reserve for annual special repayment per month | - 1,000.00 € | |||
House financing maximal | - 2,000.00 € | |||
Available net income | 1,751.00 € |
My concern is to plan for bad times, i.e. if I unexpectedly become unemployed, then the unemployment benefit I (ALG1) will still cover the financing and a few extras + my wife's income, with which one could survive a certain dry spell if it gets tight.
We want to be done with the whole project in 15-18 years, possibly KFW 3 years interest-only and pay the other loan higher depending on the interest rate etc.
I know it would be better in every respect with saved equity, but at the moment the problem is rather that building costs and the availability of properties are actually getting worse and I have had to watch for the last 3 years how the whole thing continues to climb.
After the repayment of the last obligation in October, I am for the first time even remotely able to get financing. A preliminary inquiry with a Postbank consultant had already signaled green light, but with a corresponding interest surcharge.
I will of course treat the whole thing as a tender so that there are comparisons from different sources, and we have also already decided that professional help will definitely be involved for contracts etc., I think the money is well invested and I have no idea, not my field and you cannot just casually read up on it.
So, now I have really laid my cards on the table, I hope this will not bite me in the behind
For all those who have made it this far, thank you for still having the patience and curiosity to read such treatises. I look forward to objective and honest feedback, of course, there is always a lot also between the lines regarding development etc., but that would go beyond the scope, haha.
Best regards
Family Storch