Clinker house in Baden-Württemberg, Heilbronn district

2022-10-24 09:22:07

Maybe it's worth going around the current new development areas to see if there's a brick house anywhere. Happens every now and then. And then ask the residents.

Thank you! We've already done that too. Unfortunately, so far only Viebrockhaus, or the builders later have brick slips glued onto the facade. But we're still looking :)

2022-10-24 16:48:08

I wish you good luck and success :) I do love bricks, but unfortunately they are not quite as common in the south.

2022-10-24 23:58:14

Friends of ours built with Viebrockhaus. They are super satisfied. Also near HN. We also had Viebrockhaus in the selection, but if you go beyond the standard, it gets expensive. Also, we did not find the consultation of the contact person in Wüstenrot particularly great.

Positive on our list were still:
- Müller Planbau: Neighbors of ours are very satisfied. Both we and friends of ours had positive impressions.
- Böpple: several friends were super satisfied here. It was alongside KHB in our “final,” but ended up being more expensive. Super great consultation.
- KB from Öhringen: good consultation, but there was always a bad gut feeling somewhere.
- Wunsch Haus Bad Friedrichshall: good consultation (the contact person has since moved to another architecture firm), but the construction service description was not yet fully negotiated.
- Vogt Wohnbau Erlenbach: somewhat informal but still good.

I would definitely not mention Das Massive in Heilbronn again. The construction service description was neither fair nor honest here. The feeling remained that the more questions you ask, the more gaps you find.

What ultimately led us to KHB: good experiences from friends, honest impression in the negotiation (which was confirmed), good idea of healthy building, somewhat flexibility in planning. Looking back: the decision was good. Nothing went seriously wrong. Besides us, two other families also built with KHB. Price-wise, no one was completely outrageous. When you align the construction service descriptions by asking questions, the differences relativized. KHB was tendentially rather one of the more expensive ones. In the end, however (we also spent a lot of time on the additional agreement to the contract), there were no nasty price surprises. Reimbursements and change orders were fair and the change orders totaled maybe around 5k euros. I had two or three “onsite learnings.” But nothing that led to massive price jumps.

Fermo is top. But here you really need the necessary money. It was beyond any budget of ours.

2022-10-24 23:59:46

In summary at the end: whether the budget is adhered to is decided at the beginning and during the preliminary work. At least that is our experience. But now I have strayed quite far from the question about [Klinker] - sorry

2022-10-26 14:39:36

Friends of ours built with Viebrockhaus. They are super satisfied. Also near HN. We also had Viebrockhaus in the selection, but if you go beyond the standard, it gets expensive. Besides, we didn’t find the consultation of the contact person in Wüstenrot particularly great.

Positives we had on the list as well:
- Müller Planbau: Neighbors of ours are very satisfied. We, as well as friends of ours, had positive impressions.
- Böpple: several friends were super satisfied here. Was alongside KHB in our “final,” but in the end more expensive. Super brilliant consultation.
- KB from Öhringen: good consultation, but somehow there was always a bad gut feeling left
- Wunsch Haus Bad Friedrichshall: good consultation (contact person has meanwhile switched to another architectural office), but the construction service description was not yet fully negotiated
- Vogt Wohnbau Erlenbach: somewhat down-to-earth but still good.

I definitely wouldn’t bring up Das Massive in Heilbronn again. The construction service description here was neither fair nor honest. The feeling remained that the more questions you ask, the more gaps you find.

What ultimately led us to KHB: good experiences from friends, honest impression in the negotiation (which was confirmed), good idea of healthy building, somewhat flexible planning.
In retrospect: the decision was good. Nothing major went wrong. Besides us, two other families also built with KHB.
Price-wise, none were completely outlandish. When you adjust the construction service descriptions through questions, the differences leveled out relatively. KHB was tendentially rather one of the more expensive ones. In the end, though (we also spent a lot of time on the additional agreement to the contract), there were no nasty price surprises. Refunds and additional costs were fair and the additional costs totaled maybe about 5,000 euros. I had two or three “lessons learned on the construction side.” But nothing that led to massive price jumps.

Fermo is top. But here you really need the necessary cash. Was beyond any budget of ours.

Many thanks - we now have a meeting with KHB next week. Currently, we also still have an offer from Kampa, where quite a lot of good equipment and technology are included in the price calculation. However, we have already read quite a bit of negative feedback about Kampa in various forums. I do not know whether this is to be assessed regionally. We are currently still hesitating somewhat between wood/prefabricated house and solid house. Ultimately also a question of price/performance. From a gut feeling, rather solid - but it will probably get quite a bit more expensive if you add comparable services here.

2022-10-26 15:18:44

Whether solid or timber frame is not so important for the prices, more decisive is the standard and where the builder puts their hand everywhere. And especially with large companies, there are often corresponding sales costs (representatives in the show house), which bring you very little. But you will notice this when you make an honest calculation and compare the different offers.

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