Attic Floor Plan Design - Please provide feedback!

Hello - we will buy a used house that needs renovation. Since our family plans include 4 children, correspondingly many children's rooms are needed. The following rooms must be accommodated in the attic:

3 children's rooms
1 master bedroom
1 bathroom

I will now show you the current floor plan including exterior dimensions and also our idea, which is by no means optimal. In our design, the most valuable room on the upper floor is lost to the hallway area :(
The partitioning on the upper floor is at about 2m room height – so it is a very steep roof. In the bathroom area we can definitely imagine a dormer.

(A rear extension is planned on the upper floor; it already exists on the ground floor and is to be complemented in the attic)

Feel free to get creative on the ground floor as well :) A side extension would probably exceed the budget...

If you need more data, please ask!

Recommend an architect to you. They can also supervise the measures.

Good evening,

Hello - we will buy a used house which needs to be renovated.

It seems you have already been given the floor plans; make sure you also receive the static calculations. If the office no longer exists - which is always possible - get the name of the structural engineer at the time.

I will now show you the current floor plan including exterior dimensions and also our idea which is by no means optimal.

It cannot be optimal either, since you are not from the industry; I would never trust myself to do your job. So everything is fine so far :D

You just must not make the mistake of thinking you can change an existing design yourself. Tailoring it to your needs requires, among other things, the aforementioned static calculations and an architect/a team that is experienced with renovations. Furthermore, it must be clarified whether the building fabric is in good condition - unfortunately, you mention little about the existing building, as well as the circumstance of whether and to what extent expansion is allowed; which parts of the house need to be renewed as part of the renovation. Taken together, this results in a sum you can reliably calculate at the end.

So find an architect you trust; an architect who specializes in existing buildings and for whom economic renovation is not a foreign word. I assume that you have already walked through the property with an expert _before_ purchase, so that readable information about the condition of the property is already available?

Rhenish regards

They are just thought experiments :)

On the ground floor, it would be advantageous to move the pantry to the back part of the kitchen in your sketch. The kitchen can then have two opposite work surfaces, with the door to the pantry in the middle. It would be a short route to the kitchen without a slalom in the hallway. However, you might consider moving the bedroom to the ground floor - you are planning the bathroom on the ground floor anyway, and there is more space upstairs for more children ;) How wide is the living/floor area upstairs? What is the orientation on the plot? What do you have upstairs??

Otherwise, of course I support my predecessor.

Oops, just saw the answers now :)

According to the expert, the building fabric is good.
It feels like everything will be renovated except for the roof.

We can "swap" the walls upstairs as much as we want except for the exterior wall (of course) and we will also leave the chimney shafts untouched.

We can’t move our bedroom downstairs, the current guest room will become the parents' or children's room when child 4 arrives, hence the 4 bedrooms upstairs and if no bathroom then at least 1 WC.

Yvonne, would you basically make the hallway area directly into the kitchen? So open design?

Yvonne, would you then practically turn the hallway area directly into the kitchen? So design it open?

No! Not with 4 children and a wardrobe for 6 people: that can nicely stay in the hallway. But then a direct corridor to the kitchen, with the path to the dining area at the front right.