fahri1902
2024-05-29 11:36:01
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Hello everyone,
we are currently looking at a plot of land and still have some concerns about
the slope present here. It concerns plots No. 5 and 6 – we would take 5 completely
and 6 approximately up to the level of the turning circle. So we can still combine parts of the plots here. That would then be
a total of 1100 sqm. Behind the plot, lying even lower, is the RRB on the right and oaks are to be planted there.
The heights are also indicated here.
Looking at the heights, I currently have some worries and am not quite sure
if this is the right plot for our building project.
There should be about 200 sqm of living space in a staggered storey with a double garage next to it. So we will have to compensate for about 1.5m height difference along
the length of the building.
The groundwater level is approximately at -1.2 m. The entire lower area behind the plot was, this winter when there was a lot of rain here in S-H,
under water for quite a long time. Whether it reached the plot, I cannot assess unfortunately. I was not on site at that
time.
I now see 3 acute problem areas from my point of view:
1) The water coming "from above" from the terrain, i.e., from plots 3 and 4 and even higher up – which are at least approximately 2 m above us.
A friend of mine says that a jet deflector in the form of a small wall at the plot boundary would be sufficient from his point of view –
a 40-50 cm high small wall would then deflect flash floods during extreme heavy rain events
around the plot and the house. Is that sufficient from your perspective or is that too naive?
2) In the same village this year, a house without a cellar apparently became wet in some interior rooms due to the high groundwater,
because the foundation stood in the groundwater and the water was drawn up and got into the house through the floor. So far,
I only knew such things from cellars. The architect mentioned a drainage that could then direct the water into the lower-lying areas,
but specifically the question here is, what if the lower area can no longer absorb anything? Then drainage would not help anymore, right?
Alternatively, the foundations or the floor slab could also be made with waterproof concrete (WU concrete), but that would significantly increase the costs.
I am a layman, sorry for the question – how would you handle this issue given the heights and the location?
and last but not least
3) Is it possible to exclude that with progressing precipitation amounts parts of the plot could actually remain permanently under
water? I have images in my mind where the paddocks along the rivers here get flooded and remain underwater for weeks.
That is, of course, not nice either. Rationally, I tell myself that the entire area down there is "huge" and lies about 2 m lower than our plot,
so there is actually enough space down there, and if those 2m were completely underwater, that would be billions of liters.
A soil survey specifically for the plot is still to be done, but one has already been done by the road builder, which I will also attach, the soil condition does not seem very problematic according to the architect.
How would you deal with the location of such a plot, do you see any further problems that I haven’t even considered yet?
Am I too cautious? I have a cellar that was equipped with a black tank in 1998; it has never really caused problems, but it
basically stands in the groundwater and I have to pump water away from a sump all day because no one told us back then
that there are also white tanks. These are mistakes that simply cannot be undone, and I naturally want to prevent something similar with the last house I will build in my life.
Looking forward to suggestions, assessments and opinions.
Regards
P.S.: I know that in contrast to other federal states this is of course not an extreme slope, but probably just a plot with relatively steep terrain in interpretation.
But in view of the climatic changes, I am already thinking a lot about it today.
[ATTACH alt="Höhen.png"]85996[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH width="356px" alt="Bohrung.png"]85997[/ATTACH]
we are currently looking at a plot of land and still have some concerns about
the slope present here. It concerns plots No. 5 and 6 – we would take 5 completely
and 6 approximately up to the level of the turning circle. So we can still combine parts of the plots here. That would then be
a total of 1100 sqm. Behind the plot, lying even lower, is the RRB on the right and oaks are to be planted there.
The heights are also indicated here.
Looking at the heights, I currently have some worries and am not quite sure
if this is the right plot for our building project.
There should be about 200 sqm of living space in a staggered storey with a double garage next to it. So we will have to compensate for about 1.5m height difference along
the length of the building.
The groundwater level is approximately at -1.2 m. The entire lower area behind the plot was, this winter when there was a lot of rain here in S-H,
under water for quite a long time. Whether it reached the plot, I cannot assess unfortunately. I was not on site at that
time.
I now see 3 acute problem areas from my point of view:
1) The water coming "from above" from the terrain, i.e., from plots 3 and 4 and even higher up – which are at least approximately 2 m above us.
A friend of mine says that a jet deflector in the form of a small wall at the plot boundary would be sufficient from his point of view –
a 40-50 cm high small wall would then deflect flash floods during extreme heavy rain events
around the plot and the house. Is that sufficient from your perspective or is that too naive?
2) In the same village this year, a house without a cellar apparently became wet in some interior rooms due to the high groundwater,
because the foundation stood in the groundwater and the water was drawn up and got into the house through the floor. So far,
I only knew such things from cellars. The architect mentioned a drainage that could then direct the water into the lower-lying areas,
but specifically the question here is, what if the lower area can no longer absorb anything? Then drainage would not help anymore, right?
Alternatively, the foundations or the floor slab could also be made with waterproof concrete (WU concrete), but that would significantly increase the costs.
I am a layman, sorry for the question – how would you handle this issue given the heights and the location?
and last but not least
3) Is it possible to exclude that with progressing precipitation amounts parts of the plot could actually remain permanently under
water? I have images in my mind where the paddocks along the rivers here get flooded and remain underwater for weeks.
That is, of course, not nice either. Rationally, I tell myself that the entire area down there is "huge" and lies about 2 m lower than our plot,
so there is actually enough space down there, and if those 2m were completely underwater, that would be billions of liters.
A soil survey specifically for the plot is still to be done, but one has already been done by the road builder, which I will also attach, the soil condition does not seem very problematic according to the architect.
How would you deal with the location of such a plot, do you see any further problems that I haven’t even considered yet?
Am I too cautious? I have a cellar that was equipped with a black tank in 1998; it has never really caused problems, but it
basically stands in the groundwater and I have to pump water away from a sump all day because no one told us back then
that there are also white tanks. These are mistakes that simply cannot be undone, and I naturally want to prevent something similar with the last house I will build in my life.
Looking forward to suggestions, assessments and opinions.
Regards
P.S.: I know that in contrast to other federal states this is of course not an extreme slope, but probably just a plot with relatively steep terrain in interpretation.
But in view of the climatic changes, I am already thinking a lot about it today.
[ATTACH alt="Höhen.png"]85996[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH width="356px" alt="Bohrung.png"]85997[/ATTACH]