Jester88
2021-05-31 22:15:41
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Hello everyone,
I wanted to get a first assessment from people who have already renovated older houses or built in general.
It’s about a house from 1956 – a little over 115 sqm of living space (1st floor with sloping ceilings).
But it is the former house of my great-aunt, so at least I know what I’m dealing with.
Overall, it is well maintained and above all, the location is almost priceless for me:
A small district of my hometown (total population 13,000).
On the north side, there is a primary school and a single-family house, but out of view because it is located higher up. On the east side, there is currently a free meadow (over 1500 sqm), which belongs to the property but will probably go to the city – after the meadow there is only a “soccer field.” The west side is my parents' house, and the south side is another meadow and an undevelopable nature-protected forest area.
So basically my dream for years has been to live here again, it is very quiet and you only have nature right outside your door.
But the house will not be given to us (my wife [30], my son [2], and me [33]), it is valued, together with the approximately 700 sqm plot, at around €200,000.
We do not want and cannot pay that much for it together with the renovation/refurbishment – since it is still our relatives, this has to be negotiated ;)
How far I can negotiate is still difficult to say, as the entire division of the plot (a total of 2400 sqm) is still unclear.
Well, sounds complicated now, basically we only want your assessment of how much renovation costs we should approximately or definitely expect.
Although it is in good condition, the roof and exterior walls have been insulated, a lot still needs to be done here because we want to use the house for another 50 years and I want to be sure it’s future-proof.
- Here and there, walls need to be moved/removed as far as possible.
- There are two chimneys; one is out of order.
- What is under the old floorboards, which are still covered with carpet, I don’t know. I think everything that was there is inside, so I think a lot might need to be done (screed, insulation...).
- I cannot yet assess the electrical system exactly; at least a new fuse box must be installed because the current one does not meet today’s standards.
- I have also generally listed water pipes as possible costs; there is only one bathroom on the ground floor.
- The whole house (even in the basement) has central heating – but with oil, which I actually do not want to continue using at all. The burner and tanks have apparently been renewed and, according to new regulations, do not have to be replaced, but I find this not a future-proof or affordable heating type. I’m not sure which heating types would be possible here? A heat pump would generally be my favorite.
- The windows are plastic but not many and not very large; roof windows would be optionally nice.
- Since roof tiles do not last forever, I estimate the roof must be replaced as well.
- The bathroom obviously needs a complete renovation.
- Doors, new floors, staircase between ground floor and first floor, replastering all interiors.
- The point "double garage" is just listed*.
- The plaster on the outside should also be redone + new painting.
- Since there is no terrace and no balcony, a terrace on the west side would be appropriate, towards the garden, possibly also space for a garage/carport*, the house is basically on a slope: the front door is on the north side on level ground, the south side is two-thirds of the basement above ground.
- Garden layout + fences
- On the back of the property is a turning plate/floor slab that would either have to be renewed/removed for a garage, more garden, or a new surface.
It is a concreted (?) level.
After the first talks with acquaintances who have built themselves and research on the net, I have listed some costs (file attached).
Oh, we are of course new and inexperienced in this area, but I would consider myself “very skilled at handiwork,” even if that sounds silly, and you definitely shouldn’t underestimate such a renovation, we don’t, especially since we don’t want to underestimate costs either.
We want to do a lot ourselves, as much as we, together with friends and acquaintances, can and want to trust ourselves to do, also to save costs.
[ATTACH width="248px" type="full"]61949[/ATTACH]
I wanted to get a first assessment from people who have already renovated older houses or built in general.
It’s about a house from 1956 – a little over 115 sqm of living space (1st floor with sloping ceilings).
But it is the former house of my great-aunt, so at least I know what I’m dealing with.
Overall, it is well maintained and above all, the location is almost priceless for me:
A small district of my hometown (total population 13,000).
On the north side, there is a primary school and a single-family house, but out of view because it is located higher up. On the east side, there is currently a free meadow (over 1500 sqm), which belongs to the property but will probably go to the city – after the meadow there is only a “soccer field.” The west side is my parents' house, and the south side is another meadow and an undevelopable nature-protected forest area.
So basically my dream for years has been to live here again, it is very quiet and you only have nature right outside your door.
But the house will not be given to us (my wife [30], my son [2], and me [33]), it is valued, together with the approximately 700 sqm plot, at around €200,000.
We do not want and cannot pay that much for it together with the renovation/refurbishment – since it is still our relatives, this has to be negotiated ;)
How far I can negotiate is still difficult to say, as the entire division of the plot (a total of 2400 sqm) is still unclear.
Well, sounds complicated now, basically we only want your assessment of how much renovation costs we should approximately or definitely expect.
Although it is in good condition, the roof and exterior walls have been insulated, a lot still needs to be done here because we want to use the house for another 50 years and I want to be sure it’s future-proof.
- Here and there, walls need to be moved/removed as far as possible.
- There are two chimneys; one is out of order.
- What is under the old floorboards, which are still covered with carpet, I don’t know. I think everything that was there is inside, so I think a lot might need to be done (screed, insulation...).
- I cannot yet assess the electrical system exactly; at least a new fuse box must be installed because the current one does not meet today’s standards.
- I have also generally listed water pipes as possible costs; there is only one bathroom on the ground floor.
- The whole house (even in the basement) has central heating – but with oil, which I actually do not want to continue using at all. The burner and tanks have apparently been renewed and, according to new regulations, do not have to be replaced, but I find this not a future-proof or affordable heating type. I’m not sure which heating types would be possible here? A heat pump would generally be my favorite.
- The windows are plastic but not many and not very large; roof windows would be optionally nice.
- Since roof tiles do not last forever, I estimate the roof must be replaced as well.
- The bathroom obviously needs a complete renovation.
- Doors, new floors, staircase between ground floor and first floor, replastering all interiors.
- The point "double garage" is just listed*.
- The plaster on the outside should also be redone + new painting.
- Since there is no terrace and no balcony, a terrace on the west side would be appropriate, towards the garden, possibly also space for a garage/carport*, the house is basically on a slope: the front door is on the north side on level ground, the south side is two-thirds of the basement above ground.
- Garden layout + fences
- On the back of the property is a turning plate/floor slab that would either have to be renewed/removed for a garage, more garden, or a new surface.
It is a concreted (?) level.
After the first talks with acquaintances who have built themselves and research on the net, I have listed some costs (file attached).
Oh, we are of course new and inexperienced in this area, but I would consider myself “very skilled at handiwork,” even if that sounds silly, and you definitely shouldn’t underestimate such a renovation, we don’t, especially since we don’t want to underestimate costs either.
We want to do a lot ourselves, as much as we, together with friends and acquaintances, can and want to trust ourselves to do, also to save costs.
[ATTACH width="248px" type="full"]61949[/ATTACH]