XXL dishwasher from Neff

  • Erstellt am 2015-03-08 15:14:45

clementdumont

2015-03-08 15:14:45
  • #1
Hello,

since our old dishwasher broke down, we bought an XXL dishwasher from Neff.

Because we plan to purchase an Ikea kitchen (Metod) within the next 12 months, I have done some googling and am now really overloaded with information. Unfortunately, I can’t find any suitable information anywhere about whether we can install the dishwasher in our then new Metod kitchen.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Best regards and many thanks in advance

Oh, and the device dimensions are: 86.5 cm x 59.8 cm x 55.0 cm.

Adjustable base Horizontal and vertical
Base adjustable by (mm) 40-90 / 90-160 mm
 

Juliette W

2015-03-08 16:20:54
  • #2
Hello,

Actually, you need an XXL with variable hinge for a completely trouble-free installation.

Best regards
Juliette
 

jelimi

2015-03-08 18:17:00
  • #3
Look in my gallery, I also have a Neff XXL
 

clementdumont

2015-03-08 19:09:04
  • #4
Hi jelimi,

but it is higher than the rest of the countertop, right?

We actually wanted everything to be on the same level. The Metod working height is 88 without the countertop, right? Then the 86.5 XXL dishwasher should fit too, shouldn't it?

As you have it, it would suit us. How did you do it? With an additional part from Ikea?

Thank you
 

Sektionschef

2015-03-09 08:00:11
  • #5
Hello
As with all Siemens and Bosch appliances, Neff also has the problem that the max. height of the front must not exceed 775mm, see dimension drawing. The Metod front is, however, 800mm high. So if you screw the front directly onto the dishwasher door, it would protrude too far at the bottom and would hit the appliance when opening the door. Therefore, you would not be able to open the dishwasher fully.
Additionally, Neff states that the min. height of the plinth must not be less than 90mm, but with Metod the plinth is 80mm. The plinth height is not really the problem; for example, in my kitchen the bottom edge of the front on the neighboring cabinets is about 85mm (depending on how you adjust the height of the carcass with the feet), so only 5mm of plinth height would be missing, and in an emergency there could potentially be a 5mm offset. Possibly the fronts of the neighboring cabinets (drawers) could also be adjusted a little upwards, then the offset would be just a few millimeters.
The main problem, however, remains the max. front height of 775mm!
There are now the following possible solutions to install the Neff dishwasher in the Metod kitchen:
1.) With Behjälplig: Then the front slides along rails on the dishwasher door when opening, similar to the sliding door of a refrigerator. Several users here in the forum have this and there are also some experiences and pictures of it. Some claim it works well, but there are also reports of problems (front too heavy, mechanism slips out).
2.) Stefan method: The dishwasher is set as low as possible with the adjustable feet so that there is about a 2.5cm gap between the top edge of the dishwasher and the bottom edge of the worktop. Exactly the missing cm from 775 to 800. This gap is filled inside with wooden boards. Then the front is fixed to the dishwasher door but in such a way that the top of the front protrudes up to the underside of the worktop, thus slightly extending above the dishwasher door.
I find both solutions to be “makeshift solutions” that should work but have their peculiarities. If I already have a dishwasher and want to install it in a Metod kitchen, I would choose one of these two solutions, trying both myself. The Behjälplig costs only about 25 Euro, so I would definitely buy and try that.
However, if you have to buy a dishwasher model first, as I do, you should immediately choose an XXL model WITH VARIO HINGE. Then the front can be mounted directly on the dishwasher door and it will fit without additional measures.
All the above can be read in detail here

but the discussion already spans many pages.

Best regards
Section Chief
 

clementdumont

2015-03-09 10:28:07
  • #6
Thank you very much for the clear information.

It convinced me to return the dishwasher.

Now I am, of course, more confused than ever. We don’t necessarily need an XXL dishwasher. The only criterion that excludes buying an IKEA dishwasher for us is the fact that we want a cutlery drawer.

Do I always need a Vario hinge now, or only for XXL dishwashers? I'm really starting to despair.

Edit: OK, I have now discovered the Välgjord. It wasn’t available in our original kitchen planning. This will probably be the one we go for.
 

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