Which type of underfloor heating is healthier?

  • Erstellt am 2008-11-09 13:01:25

2009-04-15 19:12:32
  • #1
:o:o:oSorry, but that's unfortunately how it is. Only fools insulate. How is it possible that your coffee stays warm in the pot without 20cm of insulation all around???
 

2009-04-15 19:27:39
  • #2
Air heating

:o Sory2

An absolutely extreme example. Public transport, a bus 2.3m wide 2.3m high gives 5.29m2 times the length gives the m3 that need to be heated. And that happens again and again when cold air flows in through the open doors. But if the exterior walls were heated (radiant heating). That would be both sides 1m high times 3cm gap 0.06m2 times the length again gives m3 of heated air. That is an insanely small 1.134%, so 98% saved. Without insulation!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
 

2009-04-15 21:28:27
  • #3


IMHO I would argue because a thermal jug is insulated. Of course not with 20cm of insulation, that would be somewhat impractical. But with a vacuum, since air is a heat conductor, insulation materials try to inhibit the circulation of air or, as with a thermos flask, the air is removed.

Coffee in a cup stays warm because the cup, provided it has a certain thickness and has been preheated, acts as a heat reservoir.



This example also falls short. The bus also has insulation.

So in my opinion you can't do without insulation unless you want to live like knights. Then you might as well do without windows since these are basically just insulation anyway or use simple glazed windows only. But a heating strip or radiator is definitely better than underfloor heating. However, this is more related to the reduced stirring up of dust.

On the question water or electric, I see an advantage in water because it is more economical.
 

2009-04-15 22:43:09
  • #4
Radiant heating

Sory3

:confused:Why can a man in Lapland, in a log cabin with 15cm wall thickness WITHOUT insulation, live in WONDERFUL RADIANT HEAT at minus 30 degrees??????;)
 

2009-04-16 23:59:27
  • #5


You could have just as well taken an igloo as an example. However, the problem is always the same: the shell is insulation in any case. That also applies to snow. The only question is how efficient the insulation ultimately is. Snow walls will melt if it gets too warm.

Wood is also a good insulator; that’s why wooden houses have thinner walls than solid houses to achieve the same insulation value. However, the disadvantage of wood is that it does not store heat well. Some prefab house manufacturers have therefore developed walls that have a brick layer on the interior side to compensate for this drawback.

When you stand by a campfire, it also gets warm. It’s only a question of the energy you are willing to expend. You definitely cannot build an energy-saving building with 15 cm. There is an exception: there is a manufacturer who builds 4 cm thick insulation panels that insulate as well as a 30 cm thick styrofoam panel. However, these are based on the principle of vacuum insulation and are therefore very expensive.

A passive house or zero-energy house should theoretically be able to do without heating because the insulation is so good that hardly any heat is lost.

What can I say, maybe you shouldn’t just spread Konrad Fischer’s wisdom, but try it out yourself. When you have spent some hundreds of thousands and are living in your uninsulated house, we can talk about energy consumption again. Basically, I am open to new ideas. But they should also be realistic.
 

2009-04-17 19:30:53
  • #6
OK

just a quick question.. Does a person need moist or dry air to breathe??????????????????:eek:
 

Similar topics
22.09.2012Insulating prefabricated house with additional insulation, DIY, inexpensive styrofoam19
20.11.2012General questions about insulation10
01.07.2013Additional insulation in the Ytong basement (36 cm)14
07.04.2014Planning attic conversion in new construction - heating, ventilation, insulation?14
21.10.2015What type of attic insulation is sensible?12
12.08.2015Is insulation worth it beyond the new construction standard?34
11.10.2017Sealing on Styrodur insulation?14
14.11.2016Bathroom ventilation drips despite pipe insulation10
02.12.2017Insulation of the top floor ceiling17
10.02.2018Perimeter insulation / floor slab insulation / brick width / window10
20.06.2018The basement should become warmer - underfloor heating, insulation?11
29.04.2018Summer heat protection and winter insulation - experiences?14
09.10.2018Costs for shell construction and roof covering/insulation - fixed price offer okay?25
01.07.2019KFW 55 - Insulation under the floor slab37
02.02.2020Insulation under the floor slab - Is it sensible? Experiences39
05.01.2020Window - Installation / Insulation / Sealing / Execution16
19.02.2021Wood-aluminum windows, what to pay attention to17
09.03.2021Reinforce floor slab insulation, reduce heat entry into the upper floor13
25.07.2024Make a plan for old building insulation - How to proceed?162

Oben