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Hello everyone,

theoretically we know exactly what we want in/on the new building – practically, many things will only be found during the planning (and some even only after a lifetime living in it).

But how does 'one' plan properly now? Already before finding the plot of land (which is hard enough) build a dream castle, and then adapt it to the plot at the given time? Or put all the energy first into the land search, and then plan accordingly to that?

I tend to the second option, because what good is a fully planned dream house if I then have to replan it from 2 VG + SG + WK and garage extension to 1 VG + attic without basement with carport (without storage room), because the development plan, neighbors, and budget demand it?!

On the other hand: How do I sort out our dreams without collecting inspiration forever, taking screenshots and saving photos, which then all have to be reviewed and integrated (resp. taken care of) 'afterwards'?

Social advice welcome, this is probably more an emotional than a technical thread here.......

Looking forward to your opinions,

b.

We are currently in a similar situation, probably building first in 2017, we can only start searching for plots from this winter, rather spring 16. Until then, we are of course roughly planning the house, but I keep noticing that too precise planning doesn't help; as you wrote, it is not possible without a plot from a certain point onward. However, one can consider what one definitely wants to have, how large the individual rooms must be at least, etc.

And of course, one can already have a basic design of their dream house planned, so that they know whether they can afford it at all ;)

Moppetüte *12.12.12

First the plot, then the house. What use is a house plan if it doesn't fit the dream plot after all. You should only be aware of which rooms you need. The rest can then be planned for any plot. But it only makes sense if you really have a plot.

Hello you two,

I am currently probably at exactly the same point, so I can only describe to you how I imagine it or how it is planned so as not to drive yourself completely crazy ;)

For us, finding a plot of land came first, since, as you also wrote, this is usually hard enough. Similarly, we toured new development areas and some show home parks to first get a rough idea of the desired house. There are tons of different points like roof shapes, bungalow, 1 ½ stories or 2 full stories, etc.

After the form was decided and a plot of land was suitable, we submitted a preliminary building inquiry to the city (only to the city, not also to the district office). Because, depending on the shape of the plot and possibly the house shape, you want to get the best possible out of it and maybe deviate from the development plan. In our case, the city approved everything in writing except for a flat-roof garage, so the plot and the space are suitable for us.

As with you, we now have wishes, suggestions, and hopes. But whether these fit into our planned budget we do not know yet. Questions arise, can we afford a basement, how many m² do I actually need on the ground floor or upper floor, etc. We have already had initial talks with the bank, not for a construction loan but to get an opinion regarding financing and especially financing amounts. Similarly, we tried to calculate the “worst case” in terms of the monthly repayment rate for the home financing. For this, we tried to create an income/expenses calculation with the help of the forum using an example of a man working, a woman at home, and a second child having just arrived. Of course, mostly estimated costs can be included here since we have no experience regarding expenses for children. From that, we told ourselves how long we want to repay and what total amount we can afford.

Now we are at the point of buying the plot and as soon as that is done (we just had the topic in the family yesterday), further planning will begin.

At a lecture on the topic of housebuilding, I was told that after the above points a basic evaluation and a preliminary planning can take place (it is advantageous to do this early if enough time is available).

Please correct me if I say something wrong now, but the basic evaluation involves the first structural inquiry with, for example, an architect or the construction company if already available. The financial possibilities are discussed as well as the plot inspected. So to speak, a consultation about the overall scope of services.

This can then be followed by preliminary planning in which floor plans, section drawings, and sketches bring the first ideas onto paper. In my assessment, room sizes, house design, as well as planning of the technology used are addressed there. This is followed by a first rough cost estimate and the verification of the approval capabilities of the building project with the district office and other authorities.

How it goes on should then gradually be self-explanatory.

What I mentioned above is how I have it in mind or imagine it and it has partially gone like that for me already. So don’t hold me (or others) to it.

I am grateful for any further tips as well as the thread creator :)

Regards Andreas

Yes, the rough house shape should be clear when looking for a plot. But one should also be able to make compromises. Because only when the plot is there do you know how to plan the house in detail. The cardinal directions, the building envelope, the access roads, and the building regulations must be observed, which all "restrict" you and set the direction for the planning.

Yes, the rough shape of the house should be clear when looking for a plot. But you should also be able to make compromises. Because only when the plot is there do you know how to plan the house in detail. You have to consider the cardinal directions, the building envelope, the access roads, and the building regulations, all of which "restrict" you and give direction for the planning.

Exactly, that’s why we took the step and approached the city in advance to clarify these points, which are indeed essential. Requested building plans, checked building lines (building envelope) to then make a building inquiry and generally clarify what is possible and whether our ideas can be fulfilled.
Of course, in our case, we also made a compromise because a flat roof on the garage was not approved, but that’s something you can live with ;)
In return, we are now allowed to build beyond the specified building envelope and with 2 full floors, which actually was not stated in the development plan.