Secure windows/front door for edge location

  • Erstellt am 2016-01-18 10:19:00

sirhc

2016-01-18 10:19:00
  • #1
Hello everyone,

our property is located on the edge:
- last property at the end of a one-way street
- a small forest area to the east
- directly adjacent to the property in the south is a railway track, industrial area behind it

Accordingly, I am currently concerned with the topic of security.
We were offered "normal" windows. I don’t have detailed knowledge yet, but I can mention a few key points: plastic, installation depth 70mm, 5 chambers, Veka profile reinforced with 2mm, triple glazing (called Veka Topline).
- For an extra charge, 82mm installation depth, 6 chambers, 3 sealing levels (called Softline).
- For an extra charge, RC1 (4 security locking points).
- For an extra charge, RC2N (6 - 12 security locking points, anti-lift protection, drill protection, lockable handle)
- For an extra charge, magnetic contact for monitoring
- For an extra charge, insulated aluminum shutters (electric powered)

The offered aluminum front door offers multi-point locking, aluminum filling, warp-resistant sash.

Initially, it is about the windows. We would choose as follows:
Windows with 82 mm installation depth without magnetic contacts with aluminum shutters.

Questions:
1) Do electric shutters automatically offer anti-lift protection?

2) RC2N means: weak point glass. Due to the adjacent railway track and the edge location, I do see the glass as a target because one would neither see nor hear it at the moment a train passes by. Therefore, I would like glass that is more difficult to break. Full RC2 would offer such glass, but would have energetic (U-value?) disadvantages, correct? How about RC2N combined with a break-resistant protective foil?

Thank you very much for your help.
 

Peanuts74

2016-01-18 14:25:19
  • #2
100% security will hardly ever be guaranteed. I would rather invest in an automatic camera surveillance system that reports movements directly and possibly turns on the lights inside the house immediately. Depending on how quickly the police would arrive at your place, potential burglars would quickly take off again...
 

sirhc

2016-01-18 14:37:08
  • #3
I absolutely agree with the first sentence, which is why my question was not: "What offers me 100% security?" :)

I personally prefer "mechanical protection". Camera systems are currently not an issue.

My questions therefore remain the anti-lift protection for automatic shutters and RC2 safety glass vs. RC2N plus protective film - taking into account the insulating properties.
 

Bieber0815

2016-01-18 21:35:04
  • #4
As far as I know: It depends! I would install RC2 on the ground floor in this situation and RC1 on the upper floor, except for windows above the garage, trash bins, etc., where I would again use RC2. That would be my baseline. Additionally, one could illuminate the property around the house with motion detectors and floodlights when there is "movement" (neighbor's cat). It also doesn't hurt to have network cabling available in the attic (to add IP cameras later). IMHO: Passive protection is the first choice. Pro tip: Get advice from the police; they do this for free and should be independent and competent ;-). It might also be possible to ask an insurance company for advice.
 

Peanuts74

2016-01-19 06:24:46
  • #5
So to climb from a "normal" trash bin into the upper floor window you have to be very athletic. In addition, a trash bin can be easily moved. I think if you install different windows, it is enough to install the more robust ones on the ground floor. Logically, people will try there first, and if they are not successful, no one will climb onto the garage or somehow up the facade to try again on the upper floor. As I said, light and/or noise through cameras and alarm systems are more effective in my opinion. The window, no matter which one, is damaged after a break-in attempt and will be paid for by insurance anyway. But in my opinion, the fact that the mentioned things attract attention rather drives away the burglar than if it just takes him more time to get into the house.
 

Bieber0815

2016-01-19 09:13:26
  • #6
The police advisory offices have a different opinion.
 

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