Samsung air-to-water heat pump with "genuine" integrated air conditioning

  • Erstellt am 2021-10-20 11:54:41

Araknis

2021-10-20 11:54:41
  • #1
Hello. This morning I was intensely influenced by an Instagram ad from Samsung... it was about an air-to-water heat pump, whose outdoor unit can also operate „real“ split air conditioning indoor units. So really an air conditioner and not just a largely pointless floor cooling. It's called Samsung TDM or EHS and I haven't really found any in-depth information while googling on my phone.

Does anyone know the system? Sounds like a great solution if you want to have both anyway.
 

tamer.darweesh

2021-12-12 23:42:51
  • #2


That sounds interesting if the costs and operation are really efficient. Have you managed to obtain additional information about these devices?
 

Mycraft

2021-12-13 00:25:20
  • #3
Every air-to-water heat pump is a "real air conditioner" but it usually acts on the water in the underfloor heating as a transmission medium and not directly on the air. However, the technology is the same. If instead of the indoor unit for heating the water, a "usual" indoor unit were connected and the air were heated/cooled, it would work the same way. Basically, nothing new has been developed here, but an estimated multi-split system has simply been repurposed. Two or more indoor units, and one or two of them heat the water. The others cool the air in summer. From a control engineering perspective, this is not really a problem.
 

Araknis

2021-12-13 09:35:34
  • #4
That it is technically nothing super special is clear so far. Only the implementation in the form that I can just buy it like that was new to me until now. By "real" I mean the Klimapart as an air-to-air heat pump and not as an unfavorable solution via the floor.
 

Mycraft

2021-12-13 10:04:41
  • #5
Yes, I understood you and that's why I also clarified that this is nothing new. Every heat pump is an air conditioner. It's just being pushed to call it a heat pump because for most people the needles go red as soon as they hear the word air conditioner, and somehow you have to sell the technology.

The whole thing is only solved via the floor because it virtually costs nothing and you don't need an extra indoor unit etc. Because that would increase the whole construction cost and the average builder wouldn't want to pay for that anymore.

But my advice: if you want a "real air conditioner," just install a second heat pump that then cools the house. As has always been done. Because it's simply more efficient and cheaper in operation and also in acquisition.
 

Araknis

2021-12-13 10:21:21
  • #6
That is exactly the question right now. Why should a second, additional device be more efficient and cheaper to operate? As I see it, that would be a "real" air conditioner with air split indoor units. I don't consider the purchase costs, because I simply don't know them for the combined device :)
 

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