Regulation on the ancillary cost flat rate of the architect

  • Erstellt am 2018-07-07 11:50:00

Alfista

2018-07-07 11:50:00
  • #1
Hello everyone,

we are currently in the final stages of building our single-family house. We built it with an architect, who was commissioned with service phases 1-8 according to [HOAI 2013 §35, Abs. 1 Gebäude].

Now I have a question about the architect's incidental costs.

At that time, we received an offer from the architect in which all fees were listed according to the service phases. There was nothing about incidental costs in the offer. Now, in the fee invoices, a flat rate for incidental costs of 5% is being charged. According to the architect, these are always applied and do not need to be mentioned in the offer. I can't really believe the architect's statement. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any clear statement on this by googling.

Can you tell me whether incidental costs (as well as their amount) have to be mentioned in the architect's offer or whether 5% can always be applied by the architect.

Thank you in advance and have a nice weekend.

Regards Alfista
 

HilfeHilfe

2018-07-07 12:24:33
  • #2
I'm glad to have built without an architect
 

Zaba12

2018-07-07 12:51:49
  • #3

Our architect is quite nice, competent, and fair! that was probably your spell checker :-p

The first architect mentioned the flat rate for additional costs of 5% and wrote it into the offer.

Did the architect not agree to a flat rate, or why are you paying according to the fee regulations? If you do this voluntarily, then you should also have the usual 5%. Because he is allowed to charge you this.
 

Alfista

2018-07-10 07:51:12
  • #4
It is already a flat-rate offer or will be billed as such -> Fixed amounts according to the offer, regardless of the actual construction costs. However, suddenly 5% incidental costs are to be added.

The offer itself was made at that time based on the HOAI and the expected construction costs.
 

Zaba12

2018-07-10 10:49:09
  • #5
Have you given the architect the contract in writing based on the offer, that is, signed the offer without [NBK]?

From my point of view, that would then be binding, and it would be his own fault if he had forgotten the [NBK] beforehand! But as I said, [NBK] are common. Our first architect wanted to charge according to HOAI plus 5% [NBK]. That was then stated in the offer for service phases 1-4, about 12k€.

The architect we then took wanted a flat rate of 4.5k€ for service phases 1-4 and also did very, very good work.
 

Similar topics
16.12.2013Pre-planning with the architect - is having your own floor plan sensible?18
01.05.2015Construction Costs in Southern Germany - Initial Rough Cost Estimate15
08.09.2015Massive house by the architect, approximate costs?16
12.10.2017Cost of enclosed space. First draft discussed with architects27
16.02.2018Stress with the architect - naively signed the preliminary contract17
11.07.2018Architects / Civil Engineer Service, Execution Plan, Scope26
29.01.2019Responsibility of the architect in case of KfW interest and further matters148
12.09.2018250000€ gross construction costs for a single-family house in southern Baden-Württemberg15
30.11.2018Architect's Fee - Experiences10
28.02.2019HOAI or why architects have no interest.....38
04.01.2022Architect, contract according to HOAI 2013 - refuses to provide service36
13.01.2020Cost of house construction with an architect34
01.07.2020Complete offer from the architect? Is the price reasonable?54
06.01.2022Architects or prefab house cost calculation and next steps27
22.05.2022Are performance phases 1-3 with the architect and lump sum offer somehow disadvantageous?19
18.01.2023Architect performance phase 1-4 - Which documents are required?33
27.05.2022Architect - Flat-rate offer instead of HOAI for single-family house12
12.02.2024Preliminary design via the architect and then tendering?16
13.11.2023Catalog house or free planning with architects12
29.10.2024Basis for creditable total construction costs26

Oben