Offer, evaluate photovoltaic system technology

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RotorMotor

2023-09-19 19:59:53
  • #1

Maybe at some point the fun of emptying the storage every day will wear off and you’ll start consuming electricity during the day as well.


Not for photovoltaics, but the transition period is really the best time for storage. The nights are already very long (yes, also the evenings) and yet there is still enough from the roof to fill the storage.


Why should a storage be good in the home office?
Especially then you have the opportunity to charge the car during the day, run the washing machine, dryer, etc. during the day.

So despite your facts, I can guarantee that you will not get the storage full and empty every day.


Electricity meters balance the phases.
You have 3 phases; depending on the storage, it produces either on one or all phases.
Your consumers are mostly single-phase and then quite likely draw from another phase.
So even if the sum is zero, the likelihood is high that you are using coal power to game while feeding in your photovoltaic/storage power.


How can one argue ideologically for a storage?
It does not generate electricity.

I do understand the argument regarding UPS somewhat though.


Why is that?
What sense would it make for a private person to feed electricity into the grid that does not come from a renewable energy system?
After all, the feed-in tariff is a subsidy, so the earmarking makes sense!
 

sysrun80

2023-09-19 20:11:36
  • #2


Exactly! So why is it then forbidden? Of course, it doesn't make sense to buy for 30-40 cents or say 18 cents - just to feed in for 8 cents ;)

Only as described here: People cannot simply take a dynamic tariff and charge the storage because they risk falling out of the Renewable Energy Sources Act.
 

RotorMotor

2023-09-19 20:23:28
  • #3
Because otherwise people start doing strange things: feeding in from the diesel generator, from the car, etc. That is naturally not a problem. You are definitely allowed to charge the storage from the grid. People do that sometimes and will do so at some point in winter when the little that comes from the photovoltaic goes directly to the heating and nothing is left for the storage and it becomes dangerously empty due to its own standby consumption. Yes, at the latest then the storage draws power from the grid and that is allowed.
 

sysrun80

2023-09-19 20:28:40
  • #4


Yes, some fools. Again: Technically it's straightforward – it's about preventing a few from possibly making a few cents from it. The rest are hindered.



That is clear. But that is not what this is about here :-)
 

kbt09

2023-09-19 20:35:31
  • #5
The current September is already above average. You can calculate something like this with the PVGIS tool and my little BKW is currently at 131.8% of the "normal" average September ;)
 

kati1337

2023-09-19 20:36:55
  • #6


We actually consume as much electricity during the day as possible. We also fill the dishwasher(s) in the evening, but don’t run them until the next day when the sun is shining. Washing machine/dryer run exclusively when the sun is out. We optimize to that extent already.
The car only charges when the sun is out, not from the storage. That’s our personal luxury, since we don’t commute and therefore don’t rely on the car always being ready at 90%. If it has 50% and it’s dark, we don’t need to charge it.
We don’t try to force the storage to be emptied. We rather try to reduce the last 4 kWh we have to buy expensively in the morning. That’s why the goal is always for the storage to last as long as possible.
At the moment, simply so much power comes from the roof that we cover the load during the day, fill the storage, and then still feed a good amount back in.



What I don’t do, however, is give up my comfort for it. I wouldn’t skip a bath in the evening to save electricity. We don’t go that far, even though we optimize what’s possible by time of day.
 

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