Land planning - where to place the garage?

  • Erstellt am 2020-09-28 18:38:40

qwertzui

2020-09-28 18:38:40
  • #1
Hello dear forum members!

Since I was already helped so extensively with my last concern, I’m coming straight away with the next one.
As mentioned, we have a plot of land (gap in building) in sight and have also visited it. Location is great, view is great, we like the plot. I told the owner that we are definitely interested in buying it. So today I called the city to inquire (with the owner’s consent) about encumbrances, possibly due development costs, etc. The building authority advised me to rather submit a preliminary building request for the following reason:
The development plan for this plot is from the 80s and envisions a street that has not yet been developed. Access to the plot happens via an asphalted property that is not owned by the city (but by my seller). The asphalted piece is “visually” part of the street (I have marked it yellow in the attachment), which is also used by everyone. Having a right of way registered there is certainly not a problem. The width of the potential access is about 3.40 m.
Now, however, I am wondering where the hell I should put the garage for the preliminary building request. Integrated into the building area? Classically to the left of the house on the boundary? First plan without garage and then see how the “real” access situation looks? I am very curious about your ideas!

Thanks and best regards
qwertzui

PS: I have attached the excerpts, I hope you can make something out of them! (sorry, it’s a bit colorful, not nice on the eye, but I hope it makes it more understandable)

 

11ant

2020-09-28 19:23:27
  • #2
If you are ready for my honest opinion: "where the hell" sounds like a worthwhile alternative, because; not on this property at all. From my point of view, the property is not developed, i.e. it would already require the corresponding right of way to be built on (in this respect, I find it hard to understand why you call it a building gap), but above all, I see clear indications in this matter that the land reallocation has not yet taken place (because after that, the street parcel should be marked off and owned by the public or all adjoining owners). I still advocate continuing the search.
 

Pinkiponk

2020-09-28 19:38:12
  • #3

Would you like to explain that in more detail? I don't quite understand it. To me, that sounds like a "piece of private road," which isn't so bad or which I can add to my property, or am I overlooking something?
 

qwertzui

2020-09-28 20:23:41
  • #4
, I am always open and very grateful for honest opinions. You can learn a lot from them I would have seen it the same way as . I call it a building gap because there are already houses on the right and left and only this plot (and the one behind it, because there is no street) is undeveloped. Please forgive me if I used the term incorrectly, I am still a construction newbie Otherwise, the area is already fully developed. I have also wondered about the infrastructure, but the lady at the office could not give me an answer as to why, which is why she recommended a "building inquiry." Everything would be checked thoroughly there. The connections for fresh water and sewage are directly in front of the "private road" plot; THEORETICALLY therefore within reachable distance (~7m).
 

11ant

2020-09-28 21:43:46
  • #5
If I understand correctly, only those plots are already developed that do not rely on the "factual private road" for their access. I would reject a preliminary building inquiry because a right of way, driving and utility easement would be necessary for access. This could also be spatially defined in another way (textually, drawing as an attachment) if the corresponding area is not to be subdivided as a new parcel. Currently, you have no right, only a tolerance (which, being less than a hundred years old, could probably be revoked at any time), and even this only applies to the right of way (walking and driving), but not to utilities. From my point of view, this is insufficient to consider the plot as properly accessed for a building permit. If a building application were to fail due to such essential obstacles, I see no hope for a positive decision on a preliminary inquiry either. The fundamental buildability is obviously given (building plot status, a building envelope results between the setback distances, minimum sizes are irrelevant here because not specified). The preliminary inquiry would not be able to reveal anything new as long as the GFL-right has not been agreed upon and can be proven in the prescribed form (which varies depending on the federal state). In short: from an official perspective, you can only "see" the public road from the plot, and that is not enough to approve a development. They will respond to your preliminary inquiry that the approval is severely objectively obstructed.
 

ypg

2020-09-29 00:50:21
  • #6
... but that's exactly why you submit a building inquiry, right?
 

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