Lamp layout for open living area

  • Erstellt am 2015-10-16 08:04:01

krachbumms

2015-10-16 08:04:01
  • #1
I am still not satisfied with all the variants I have come up with for positioning lighting points for our open living/dining area – maybe someone has the decisive suggestion? Attached is the floor plan excerpt.

We are planning with 230V lighting points for pendant lamps and surface-mounted spots. The open kitchen with island is connected below the dining room – the lighting there is already set.

What is certain: Above the dining table there should be 2 outlets and above the living room table one lighting point (each for pendant lamps and separately switchable). But how do I ensure a harmonious general lighting for living and dining?

I had initially planned two rows of three surface-mounted spots (dimmable) from the hallway into the two corners. But then I am still missing light in the living room... And if I also plan 4 surface-mounted spots in the “corners” there, the distances between the spots are somehow unfortunate (between dining and living too close). I also wonder if so few spots actually produce enough light?

I am a total beginner on this topic and have to present the final planning to our home builder within the next few days.
 

nordanney

2015-10-16 12:03:07
  • #2
You can never have enough lamps(possibilities). In general: light on the ceiling to make it bright. Wall lamps, e.g. above the sideboard or next to cabinets, floor lamps, table lamps on the sideboard, wall candles, lighting in the sideboard or cabinet, accent spots for pictures or "art". This makes it cozy. Exactly how, of course, depends on your furnishings. We have a total of 16 possibilities to turn on the light in the kitchen/living/dining area.
 

krachbumms

2015-10-16 13:44:58
  • #3
Thanks for your input! I hope this makes it easier: we don’t want wall lamps, we won’t have cabinets with lighting installed. We will place floor lamps in the couch/TV area as needed. So, it’s primarily about ceiling light points for now. Assuming I put 6 spots near the walls in the dining room and 4 spots near the walls in the living room – will that be enough for a 35sqm room or will it be a rather dim cave that feels way too dark? In the dining room, in addition to the spots, I could also imagine a ceiling lamp in front of the dining table in the entrance area, but in the living room, it seems inconsistent to me if a second normal hanging lamp is placed not far from the coffee table lamp.
 

ypg

2015-10-16 19:13:11
  • #4




I don’t understand: from the hallway towards the dining room corners? That sounds to me a bit like dimmed floodlight. And what do you want to illuminate in the corners?



No one understands that: what do you want to illuminate in the corners?



...

You have to distinguish, as already wrote: a general light, which you turn on sometimes to find something in the dark, to iron... just to have light. And then accent lights: these can be spots arranged in a row, for example in front of a window front or the TV wall. But these certainly do not illuminate the rest of the room.

I’m reading your post again and realize that you’re not talking about atmospheric general lighting, but that the general lighting should be harmonious.

If the dining table will be placed so that you can also get out of the bay window, you roughly have the center of the dining room. There a dimmable lamp, that lets you brighten the room. Or two outlets spaced 50cm or 100cm apart – I would however connect those. In the middle of the living area I would also set a main light separately – bright enough to illuminate these 16 square meters. Or a movable 4-spot. Or four individual spots directed towards the room corners straight down, but not too far into the corners. You have to draw that once with an approximate light radius where they would have to be placed. I would not, however, overestimate the general lighting: usually the dining room lamp suffices for everything you do in that area. I can also count on one hand how often I turn on the main living room light per year.
 

krachbumms

2015-10-16 20:12:06
  • #5
first of all: the living room is 430cm wide. The bay window inside is 130cm x 316cm

attached is my previous approach with placed light sources, with pendant lamps above the tables and otherwise surface-mounted spotlights planned.
am I reading that right that it will be too dark like that?

since the living room is so small, the lamp above the table is almost centered already – wouldn’t it look silly to place a second one 1m away?

regarding the wall distance for spots, I googled (I don’t remember the source now) that you should take ⅓ of the ceiling height (for us 275cm), so about 90cm – is that correct?
 

krachbumms

2015-10-16 20:29:35
  • #6
I have to correct myself: 90cm between the spots says my note, if in a row. The first spot at a wall, however, with about 50cm distance to it. (?)

What do you think of the attached layout? (each letter individually switchable, the red diamonds mark the position of the switches).
Where would a dimmer make the most sense - for the spots in the living/dining area?
Spots in living/dining area switchable together or separately?
 

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