Hire purchase within the family (with ownership share?)

  • Erstellt am 2022-08-24 10:34:26

negRomino

2022-08-24 14:36:14
  • #1
Then I actually misunderstood it. So it would really be something like an installment purchase. In that case, according to my understanding, you would have to reverse the whole thing and make an arrangement where the sellers keep shares of the property as long as we have not fully paid off the private loan. As far as I understand, there is no retention of title with real estate, right?
 

SaniererNRW123

2022-08-24 14:47:05
  • #2

No. What you are planning is not possible.

Do it the way wrote. The community of heirs then acts as a bank. It could also get a land charge for security in the land register (ranked after the real bank that finances the renovation). Everything else is rubbish.
 

negRomino

2022-08-24 14:57:47
  • #3


Especially if no interest or interest significantly below the market rate is agreed for the loan, the tax office could also interpret this as a gift, I thought.
 

Tolentino

2022-08-24 15:03:16
  • #4
Yes, that's why I would agree on interest rates specifying how high they must be so that just not, etc etc best to -> Steuerberater. It could be that in the end the founding of a foundation would even be the best option, which would then officially also take over the restructuring (I don't believe it, but it could be)...
 

SaniererNRW123

2022-08-24 15:10:19
  • #5
There are two things to consider. 1. The market interest rate can still be set at 1.5-2% now, as it is actually market standard. Below market rate is also possible, as long as it stays within a reasonable range. 2. Only the interest counts as a gift, not the loan. Since the property – according to your words – needs renovation, I assume the loan is not particularly high. Let's say €200,000 for calculation purposes. If you pay only 1% interest and the market rate would be 2%, you are effectively gifted 1% interest each year. So in my example, €2,000 p.a. This amount is credited against the exemption limits for a gift. After 5 years, that is e.g. €10,000 gift. Every third party has an exemption limit of €20,000 every 10 years (?). Therefore, the issue is manageable.
 

negRomino

2022-08-24 16:02:23
  • #6
That would indeed be manageable. I had read that there must be an agreement that would usually be made in this form with third parties; otherwise, it could happen that the entire loan amount and not just the interest could be treated as a gift. But I just got a great idea – I'll discuss this with a tax advisor! :p
 

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