cille
2016-11-30 13:40:30
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Hello forum,
we are facing the following problem:
We bought our plot of land in April 2013, and started building in October 2013. Now it was time to work on the outdoor area; for this, we had to submit a separate building application again because we want to raise the ground level more than is allowed without a building permit in Hessen – we also submitted the terrace at the same time.
Our plot is part of a new development area of about 150 parcels, which was developed by a land development company. Previously, there were a few high-rise buildings here; these were partially shredded, and the material was used for terrain modeling. The plot is on a slope, with the street in front and falling to the back left, about 2 meters over 25 meters length. There is also a building permit in which the land development company got approval for the modeling (including new heights). Our rear neighbors started building before us; at that time, we had not even bought the plot yet.
For our building application for the house, we of course also had a survey done. It turned out then that the heights at the boundaries were “broken” or at least deviated from the land development company’s building permit – in some cases by as much as 60 cm. At that time, we thought that the excavator from the neighbors probably dug a bit more into the slope, which was fine at first – we would fix it later.
Now, as mentioned, we wanted to start the outdoor area and, in consultation with the building authority, planned and submitted the boundary construction based on the height model of the land development company. Planned are L-shaped stones to smooth our plot somewhat. The building application was also approved – initially.
Now we have received a letter from the building authority stating that one of our neighbors has lodged an objection against the building application. He argues with his survey and pictures that the land development company did not raise as much near the boundary as they had been approved for, and that the height from his survey is now the decisive height...
The building authority now wants to withdraw the building application again!
Now here’s the thing:
The strange thing is that the survey of the second neighbor (we three share a boundary point) confirms the height plan of the land development company – and this survey was done two to three weeks earlier. In addition, the quarrelsome neighbor enclosed photos showing the terrain surface nicely, which apparently had been worked on shortly before (frost on the untreated neighboring plot and his plot smooth as a baby’s bottom and frost-free; you can even see smooth ground where an excavator bucket has removed soil).
So we went to the building authority and said he changed the ground and our boundary course without approval and only then made the photos and his survey. But the authority can’t do anything because the survey shows a height which they have to use...
Now we face the following questions:
1) Does the approved terrain model of the land development company only have a “may”-character, meaning that the land development company was not obliged to fill up to a certain height?
2) Can the building authority just withdraw the building application like that? They already had all relevant documents. Our house building survey already showed the broken heights, and we explicitly discussed with them that we would submit the building application not based on the broken heights but on the heights of the land development company. They can’t now say, oh no, the old broken heights count after all...?!
3) Can I also claim the height of the surveyed boundary point from neighbor 2 (who surveyed earlier) for myself? At that time, the terrain was still as planned; according to the quarrelsome neighbor’s survey, that point was also 60 cm lower.
4) Do I have any legal options to hold the land development company liable if they really did not prepare the plot as they submitted?
5) Can I demand subsequent performance, i.e., have the height made as originally applied for and approved?
6) It is very likely that the land development company prepared the terrain as approved (according to neighbor 2’s survey). I now have to prove that the quarrelsome neighbor dug without approval. Are there no protective mechanisms like legitimate expectations?
7) How good is the chance, if I pursue legal action, to prove with the pictures that digging took place?!
Thanks in advance for reading
Stefan
we are facing the following problem:
We bought our plot of land in April 2013, and started building in October 2013. Now it was time to work on the outdoor area; for this, we had to submit a separate building application again because we want to raise the ground level more than is allowed without a building permit in Hessen – we also submitted the terrace at the same time.
Our plot is part of a new development area of about 150 parcels, which was developed by a land development company. Previously, there were a few high-rise buildings here; these were partially shredded, and the material was used for terrain modeling. The plot is on a slope, with the street in front and falling to the back left, about 2 meters over 25 meters length. There is also a building permit in which the land development company got approval for the modeling (including new heights). Our rear neighbors started building before us; at that time, we had not even bought the plot yet.
For our building application for the house, we of course also had a survey done. It turned out then that the heights at the boundaries were “broken” or at least deviated from the land development company’s building permit – in some cases by as much as 60 cm. At that time, we thought that the excavator from the neighbors probably dug a bit more into the slope, which was fine at first – we would fix it later.
Now, as mentioned, we wanted to start the outdoor area and, in consultation with the building authority, planned and submitted the boundary construction based on the height model of the land development company. Planned are L-shaped stones to smooth our plot somewhat. The building application was also approved – initially.
Now we have received a letter from the building authority stating that one of our neighbors has lodged an objection against the building application. He argues with his survey and pictures that the land development company did not raise as much near the boundary as they had been approved for, and that the height from his survey is now the decisive height...
The building authority now wants to withdraw the building application again!
Now here’s the thing:
The strange thing is that the survey of the second neighbor (we three share a boundary point) confirms the height plan of the land development company – and this survey was done two to three weeks earlier. In addition, the quarrelsome neighbor enclosed photos showing the terrain surface nicely, which apparently had been worked on shortly before (frost on the untreated neighboring plot and his plot smooth as a baby’s bottom and frost-free; you can even see smooth ground where an excavator bucket has removed soil).
So we went to the building authority and said he changed the ground and our boundary course without approval and only then made the photos and his survey. But the authority can’t do anything because the survey shows a height which they have to use...
Now we face the following questions:
1) Does the approved terrain model of the land development company only have a “may”-character, meaning that the land development company was not obliged to fill up to a certain height?
2) Can the building authority just withdraw the building application like that? They already had all relevant documents. Our house building survey already showed the broken heights, and we explicitly discussed with them that we would submit the building application not based on the broken heights but on the heights of the land development company. They can’t now say, oh no, the old broken heights count after all...?!
3) Can I also claim the height of the surveyed boundary point from neighbor 2 (who surveyed earlier) for myself? At that time, the terrain was still as planned; according to the quarrelsome neighbor’s survey, that point was also 60 cm lower.
4) Do I have any legal options to hold the land development company liable if they really did not prepare the plot as they submitted?
5) Can I demand subsequent performance, i.e., have the height made as originally applied for and approved?
6) It is very likely that the land development company prepared the terrain as approved (according to neighbor 2’s survey). I now have to prove that the quarrelsome neighbor dug without approval. Are there no protective mechanisms like legitimate expectations?
7) How good is the chance, if I pursue legal action, to prove with the pictures that digging took place?!
Thanks in advance for reading
Stefan