Garage too deep due to local design regulations

  • Erstellt am 2017-02-24 16:51:30

sauerpeter

2017-02-24 16:51:30
  • #1
Hello everyone,

I need your help or experience regarding garage construction and a local development statute.

Problem:
We are planning to build a city villa with a garage. Now, the natural ground surface at the garage location is slightly lower than the rest. The neighbor's ground is also about 10cm lower. The garage is intended to be a boundary structure. According to the height specifications, our construction company could just manage the planned garage if one assumes that a value on the site plan (height specification) is roughly equal. This value is located practically right next to the garage, and the area appears level to the eye. But the surveyor is supposed to determine the exact value again. Now comes the big problem. According to the local development statute, we must install a saddle at the street-facing side. However, that would no longer fit, and the garage would then be over 3m higher than our neighbor. I don't know the exact height.
Does anyone know how this could be resolved?

The only current solution from the architect is to have the garage lower than the house, but then we would effectively drive down a bit and be susceptible to water. Also, that is just really ugly.
Application for deviation? Does that make sense?

Thanks to you all!
 

11ant

2017-02-25 02:28:14
  • #2


I am uncertain whether I can quite follow your words. What I believe I have understood is the following: Your garage is supposed to match the neighbor's at its highest point, but due to a local design statute you have to take different routes - why were different conditions applicable to the neighbor? - and how can a local design statute require neighbors to proceed differently (after all, they are usually devised precisely for harmony)?
 

sauerpeter

2017-02-26 10:01:59
  • #3
Ok, I’ll try to explain myself a bit more in detail. Recently, it had to be done quickly. So we are building a city villa with a garage that is supposed to stand right next to it. Take a look at the attached sketch. At the top is the height indication from the neighbor 69.39. Then comes the boundary; that’s where the garage is supposed to go in the area where there is no height indication. In the area of 69.48, there is basically already a part of the house. I’m not sure if I understood everything correctly, but if we want to build our garage now, then from the neighbor’s perspective our garage is over 3m. He is already lower. I have to look at it from the neighbor’s point of view, right? The architect said that in the area where the garage is supposed to be, it would also be at least 69.48m (that still needs to be measured), then it could work with the garage. Problem here: According to the local design statute, the garage must have a saddle roof pitched towards the street (45 degrees). That would then not fit at all in terms of height. Hope this is clearer now. Do you see any possibilities for how the garage could still be built. We have 1400 sqm and without a garage it’s already sparse.
 

sauerpeter

2017-02-26 10:10:48
  • #4
Our right neighbor is approximately at the same elevation as us. But the left one must have completely removed a piece of his property back then, which is why he seems to lie deeper in some places. And now we have to somehow deal with that. The architect said that we could also go deeper with the house and garage, but then we would have a dip in the driveway. We would then basically drive down a bit onto the property, since the public area in front of the property is at an elevation of 69.70m. That is complete nonsense, then I would constantly have to deal with masses of water/puddles during rain. The building application should be finished and submitted next week, but now that will probably be delayed indefinitely. Crap...
 

11ant

2017-02-26 14:27:50
  • #5
I still understand either nothing - or nothing that makes sense: Your property is 9 cm higher than the neighbor's. The height of the garage should not exceed 3 m, measured cautiously from the level of the neighbor's property, I can follow that far. But the neighbor has a flat roof garage and your garage is supposed to have a 45° pitched roof (which means, with a length of 6m, the roof alone would be 3m high). My question is still open: how are the garage roofs "flat at the neighbor's" and "45° at yours" supposed to fit the SAME design statute?

Or have I misunderstood something and your measurement neighbor also has a garage with a pitched roof and lowered it by one roof height?
 

sauerpeter

2017-02-26 22:43:54
  • #6
No, the neighbor does not have a garage. The neighbor only has his bungalow on his 1,400 sqm, located in the rear area of his property. We are building our town villa and also the garage in the front area. This is to be built as a boundary development to the neighbor, who is situated somewhat lower than we are. Also, we do not have to build a gable roof, but it is sufficient if the garage has a kind of fascia at the front that looks like a gable roof. Is that called an attic? Just at the front and not all around. You basically have a fascia at the front with two rows of roof tiles. This is intended to imitate a kind of gable roof.

Would it make a difference if the neighbor agrees and we are just over 3 meters? Without any building encumbrance or the like.
 

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