Front door with internal latch?

Hello everyone,

this week a new front door was delivered and installed at our place. In my opinion, the door was delivered too large and was not installed into the wall opening but was mounted from the inside against the wall. Unfortunately, I was not on site and another family member basically allowed this installation.



So, now I am thinking about how to deal with this. The responsible company believes that they measured specifically and that everything is as ordered. I will pull myself together now and spare myself and you from going into this further.

For me, this is completely unexpected. The exterior wall is an undamped 45 cm thick and will also be fitted with external insulation as a result. I even had the wall opening specially enlarged beforehand. I would never have dreamed of not installing the door in the middle. Especially since there is no insulation in the wall opening now and at least the lintel still has to be plastered. So I can no longer add insulation in front of it. Maybe a maximum of 1 cm, but then the door jamb virtually closes off with the insulation. Since it is an old building and the walls are not straight, correspondingly large gaps arise (in which there is at least sealing tape), as can also be seen in the photo. This did not really matter with the interior plaster because no one expected the door to be installed there. The door frame is now to be clad and the gaps closed. There are also pre-drilled holes in the frame with which frames are normally anchored in the door opening.

What actually interests me now is whether one does such a thing at all? Assuming the misunderstanding is my fault, would something like this be acceptable from a craftsmanship or professional point of view? Since the exterior wall in the door opening cannot be insulated, I firmly assume that this must lead to a thermal bridge. Is my assumption correct?

Stunned ... that a door supplier even thinks about installation there.

What I still don't understand is at which position you thought of the installation? Door jamb fully belonging to the entrance or fully belonging to the apartment or somewhere the door right in the middle?

But the is out of the question.

That's an April Fool's joke..

The responsible company is of the opinion that they measured it specially and everything is as ordered.

Then show your order form and photos of the previous door.

So I can no longer add insulation in front of it either.

Actually, no insulation goes into the reveal there.

But the is unacceptable.

However, a cover strip for the profile jamb still needs to be delivered.

That’s an April Fool’s joke..

I think otherwise. I rather suspect a wooden door in the same installation position as the predecessor.

As so often, lack of communication. :mad:

What I still don’t understand is at which position you thought about installing it? Door rebate completely belonging to the entrance or completely to the apartment or somewhere with the door in the middle?

I would have assumed now that the door ends up in the middle. It is aligned there and then insulation boards are placed from the outside (and maybe even inside?) within the door opening up to the door frame.

Then show your order form and photos of the previous door

The order says about the door "HET/plastic white/overlapping sash/3-point locking/TEKTONA/push handle/Dr 1150x2200", whereby we crossed out the dimension m with the note "Please wait. Probably 1000x2100," because we first wanted to see how we could enlarge the door opening, since the previous one at about 850mmx1900m was quite small. Unfortunately, I don’t have a photo of the previous door. But it may be worth mentioning that there was a wooden porch in front of the building that had its own entrance door. The door previously installed there was an interior door (left hinge) and also mounted against the wall.

Actually, none belongs in the rebate.

Maybe I used the word rebate incorrectly. I mean the inside of the wall opening. Since it is older brick masonry, my assumption was that insulation definitely belongs in front of the frame (please correct me) because the walls let through a lot of heat. As it is now, the "shortest uninsulated path" between "outside" and "inside" through the wall is roughly the width of the insulation strip that sits between the door frame and the wall. That is 5 cm. If you place the door in the middle of the door opening, my assumption would be that insulation is applied outside the door, on the inside of the wall opening, in the thickness of the door frame. That way, the dew point at low temperatures would lie somewhere in the insulation (or the wall). But as I said, I’m not an expert. Where should the insulation go now? Would you go for internal insulation? If I wanted to come to some agreement, otherwise one could have considered enlarging the wall opening even further. But if you tell me the door does not go into the wall, I’m now wondering what actually is good and right.