Floor plan suggestions: Single-family house with gable roof - approx. 170 sqm

Hello everyone,


First of all, many thanks to everyone who takes the time here for constructive feedback. We really appreciate it and don’t take it for granted :) Now to our topic:

After a long search, we finally were offered a nice plot of land in a good location and took it. We are currently considering how to optimally build on it within the permitted possibilities and would be very happy about your ideas.


Size of the plot: 502 sqm plot / 250 sqm green area with earth embankment

Slope: almost flat, 0.5-1m unevenness over the whole plot

Floor area ratio 0.4

Floor space index: -

Building window, building line and border: top/bottom 2.5m

Edge development: Baden-Württemberg -> 9m or 25m3 on one side and 15m buildable in total

Number of parking spaces: min. 2, optionally 4 if the planning allows

Number of floors: 2 without basement

Roof shape: Gable roof must be parallel to the street, possibly hip roof if it does not look like a classic city villa

Style: subtle country house style/Scandi inside with some modern elements. The house will be built solid. A few wooden elements will be incorporated if the carport or garage allows. Brick is optimal but probably too expensive.

Orientation: The evening sun in the living-dining area is important to us -> south/west orientation.

Maximum height/limits: 9m

Further specifications: Garage driveway parallel to the street 1.5m distance from the street or 90 degrees offset from the street 5m distance. Carport 1.5m distance from the street regardless of direction.



Requirements of the builders

Style, roof shape, building type: gable roof

Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors

Number of people, age: 4 (33, 31, 1, 0)

Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor: as small as necessary but depending on the layout of the floor plan (Ground floor: living-dining area with kitchen approx. 50-58 sqm, WC with bath 4-5 sqm, office 10-12 sqm, technical room 7-12 sqm, stairway anything but a straight stair, cloakroom for at least a 1.8m wardrobe | Upper floor: 2 children’s rooms 2x 14-15 sqm, bathroom approx. 12-14 sqm depending on layout, utility room 4-7 sqm, parents with dressing room 22-30 sqm ideally with a small niche for a small office or even as an extra room)

Tool shed: optional depending on how much space is found in the garage (2.5x3m)

Office: family use or home office?: Ground floor: home office, possibly later as a bedroom to use as its own residential unit

Guest sleepers per year: 10

Open or closed architecture: we like niches but it should be a reasonably normal roof and nothing too abstract :)

Conservative or modern construction style

Open kitchen, cooking island: U-shape, with cooking island

Number of dining seats: 1 table with 6 seats permanently, 2-3 more tables for birthdays (large family)

Fireplace: -

Music/stereo wall: -

Balcony, roof terrace: not necessary

Garage, carport: covered garage and/or carport with gable roof or hip roof. Important is a workshop adjacent to garage or carport. For example, a larger single garage with workshop and storage area. Therefore, gable roof makes sense. Ideally with a lift. And a carport for the second car. Or double garage/double carport for two cars + workshop/storage area.

Utility garden, greenhouse: For us, it is very important in the floor plan design that the garden remains large and spacious. Therefore, we have tried to move the house and storage spaces as far as possible to the bottom right. The difficulty is then being able to place the front door and windows well. Large terrace over the living/dining area.

Further wishes: Avoid unnecessary corridors as much as possible and use areas efficiently. E.g. area under the stairs via access as pantry or in the technical room or cloakroom.



House design

Who created the plan: Do-it-Yourself

What do you particularly like? Why? The orientation of the living/dining area with kitchen because the garden looks so nice and the evening sun is very important to us.

What don’t you like? Why? Garage/carport are somewhat too small because of the apartment entrance. The living area could be a bit more screened off from the kitchen. The L-shape is also very important to us here, but we can’t get it any better because of the office. On the upper floor, it is difficult to add a small separate office next to the necessary utility room. It can also be in the dressing room but should not become too cramped. Second office but only optional.

Cost estimate according to architect/planner: approx. 500-550K€

Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 600K€

Preferred heating technology: air heat pump





If you have to give up something, which details/expansions

-you can do without: second office on the upper floor, otherwise we need the rooms

-you cannot do without: nice living/dining area with L-shape and garage with lots of space and workshop



Why has the design become what it is now? For example

A mixture of many examples: rooms work. And the garden remains nice and large.

What do you think is particularly bad about it? If you cannot move properly around the garage/carport/front door and have too little storage space because of the missing basement, the whole house somehow doesn’t work for us and you make too big a compromise.

What else is on our mind is maybe placing the technical room as edge building to the far right. This way the right strip of 2.5m to the neighbor boundary would become smaller because you cannot do anything with that space anyway and the garden on the left becomes larger. And maybe placing a carport in front so that you can enter the house from the right side and then next to the carport on the left you could place a garage with parallel driveway.

We are very curious about what ideas you can contribute.

Best regards

First of all, congratulations on a nice plot of land.

Randbebauung: Baden-Württemberg-> 9m bzw. 25m3 auf einer Seite und 15m in Summe bebaubar

Do you understand the sentence? You are using up about 20 meters of boundary development. Additionally, your workshop could be considered a living space, which would not be allowed on the boundary.
Your nested cars violate the excerpt you posted yourself regarding the parking spaces on the property.

However, I see a roundabout here? It is quite possible that no access is allowed there. Each adjacent property to the roundabout will probably be accessed in a different way, but not from the roundabout itself.

Since you do not specify the development plan, there is not much to say here. But in any case, none of your DIY planning is usable. In my opinion, it violates the requirements of the distance regulations.

An excerpt of the development plan showing the designation of the contour lines is helpful. Here one can assume that the slope is 2 m within the property. I would not describe that as almost flat.

The idea of having 4 pieces of E32 7 Series BMWs in one family is something. But even if they are different cars - these vehicles have the width of a modern small SUV and not even very slim people can get in or out easily when planning the space in your garage and parking solution. OK, newer models can be parked straight with the touch display on the key and you can get out conveniently in advance. I can report from experience that this show is quite annoying in the rain and takes too much time in everyday life to be really practical. Since you emphasize that you have a thing for niches, I can understand the interior layout from that aspect. Having the desk so close to the bed - that has not proven successful for me. I generally find the workshop pretty cool. As for to what extent this is permissible - I have my doubts, but I prefer to let those who have dealt with it more thoroughly take the lead in the argument.

The idea of 4 E32 7 Series BMWs in one family has something. But even if they are different cars -

... not even Röhrl / Geistdörfer can park or unparking them there together. Why make plans "with measurements" if you don't notice that? - I can already clearly see without measurements that the cars are practically walled in.

Here one can suspect that the slope is 2 m on the property. I would not call that almost flat.

Judging by the floor heights, they seem to me to be quarter-meter contour lines, and thus "almost flat" is acceptable.

The idea of 4 pieces of E32 7-series BMWs in one family has something. But even if they are different cars -

... even Röhrl / Geistdörfer can only park or unpark them together. Why make plans "with dimensions" if you don’t notice that? - I can clearly see without dimensions that the cars are practically walled in.

Here one can assume that the slope is 2 m on the property. I wouldn’t call that almost flat.

According to the floor heights, quarter-meter contour lines seem to me to be present, and thus "almost flat" is acceptable.

Currently we are considering how to build this optimally within the permitted possibilities and would be very happy about your ideas.

I immediately have a brilliant idea for you: do yourself the huge favor of distancing yourselves from this planning maxim (or at least method) of "maximally splitting up the property." My day would already be ruined if it began in such a zigzag bedroom. Here all the wall lines and walking paths are folded like intestines. And for what? – for nothing! (A normal family 2E2K should prefer a standard floor plan over any amateur DIY.) After all, an amateur design of 170 sqm is a good indication to be able to manage professionally with 150 if not even 140 sqm.