Floor plan of a single-family house with approximately 150 sqm on a rear lot

  • Erstellt am 2023-02-27 08:24:15

dieJulia

2023-03-07 22:56:51
  • #1
Ahjo, someone will like it. But wouldn't your designs be better placed elsewhere, perhaps in a more prominent spot? I'm trying to find ideas for our requirements, not for just any.

My mom also bought a fairly expensive vacuum robot. It was returned because it didn't work properly for an "outside" family with a dog.

However, we will now take another look at the one from 89. Half a meter or smaller, but a bit wider, north near the 3-meter limit, about 4m to the west, carport to the west, small terrace to the south, and I always sit in the east in the shade. So it doesn't matter whether the neighbor's garage is in the west or not, because there are no living rooms there. The tree will definitely be cut down and the small bedrooms are in the east, there is hardly a shorter connection path, and theoretically a small car can still park in the north, provided the entrance is not too deep, without blocking our large one. The bike stuff will then go to the northeast to the garage of the northern neighbor. And can be accessed via the driveway or from the back. Trash bins can also go in the northeast.
I will mark out the driveway and see if it works with our Dokker. Our car definitely won't get any bigger.
 

ypg

2023-03-07 23:15:39
  • #2
Hm… let me put it this way: in this sub-forum people deal with floor plans, most of them for a very long time. Some even before the internet offered forums or before F B existed… These people have, for whatever reasons, experience in design creation, even if it is only the good 3-D view. But that is also greatly understated.

Since no aliens present house designs here either, many areas naturally explain themselves. Special situations that one wants to explain, e.g. disabilities, shift work or two bedrooms, are explained in the questionnaire or in the initial thread.

If the design is good for you, then that’s great! But there is still the word “actually” and exactly that request in this forum:

So if many users here contribute their experiences, think about your design, then there will be things that are far-fetched to you. That can happen, that not everything is praised.

The problem for you with constant defense and explanation why it turned out the way it is, is that you thereby do not face suggestions or criticism because you cling too much to what is actually up for discussion and are not open. You therefore remain stuck, looking more back than forward. You basically block yourselves.

You gave exactly the same reactions to constructive criticism on F+B a month ago with a different floor plan and three weeks ago with this floor plan: always just defensive, without even remotely wanting to understand. Then you also quickly overlook that some who have knowledge do not even participate in the discussion because the level of the design simply does not go beyond an initial idea. There are too many planning errors.

Yes? The cabinets have the same effect on the staircase in your first design. And with a ground floor bathroom in the rearmost corner of the house you lay the egg to dirty the entire hallway in a hurry when entering the house because in many situations there is simply no time to quickly take off the boots. Never say never before you have untangled your own knots in your head (and thus also the house design).

that can be countered with, for example, gravel.

Even if the connection on the west side will be a small challenge, I see no reason to squeeze the house so far to the west. If there is strong growth in the east, you probably do not want to stay there. The location of the house is ideal in terms of the sun position in summer as well as winter if you ensure that the winter sun still reaches the west side a bit in the early afternoon. The piece between neighbor’s garage and house will probably offer a nice opportunity for a small covered arbor, since the garage will provide a nice windbreak.

The criticism of that she behaves like a small child, I gladly return when it comes to this choice of words from you. Self-reflection I offer as a tip. Also the tip that artificial corners in a house do not give anything. They take away light and barrier freedom.
 

K a t j a

2023-03-07 23:30:06
  • #3
The mentioned requirements were taken into account. Of course not those you spontaneously come up with after every alternative proposal. However, I trust that the interested reader can distinguish important specifications from nonsense.
 

dieJulia

2023-03-08 01:15:28
  • #4


No, I didn’t make anything up spontaneously at all. You’re just ignoring it.

Ypg, but that’s not how you do it… one should know not to mix sources where real names can appear. However, in general it’s not quite right either. The critiques/suggestions/ideas there have indeed been incorporated, just as the useful suggestions here have again led to discussions and ideas. But not everything, because not everything fits me/us.

And I have already explained the thing about the cabinets and the open staircase. Yes, the cabinets have the same effect in the first draft, but another advantage outweighs that for us, namely the access to the kitchen. Katja’s proposal brings more disadvantages than advantages, because the consequence of the wide hallway is that the bathroom upstairs becomes huge. So if I can choose whether I want an open staircase, a guest bathroom where I don’t have to go through the dirty area, an upstairs bathroom that is not as big as a grown-up bedroom and as a consequence have to live with a negligible niche in the office etc. etc. etc., or as an option have to go through the dirtiest area in the house when I go to the downstairs bathroom, have a bathroom the size of a room that others don’t even have as a children’s room, have a darker hallway and only get a small storage room as an advantage, then I choose option 1. Completely clear! Is it perfect? No, but it fulfills the points that are important to me better than the other proposal. It would probably be more correct to develop that better than to throw it overboard because xy from the internet likes large bathrooms.

But to also make it clear again regarding the position of the house: if the house with its 9.x meters (from north to south) moves too far east, then we will not get permission to fell the spruce (and yes, at e.g. 5 meters distance at the western boundary, that becomes very likely). Then we have a dark hole, no matter if theoretically there would be a nice garden there. We are not stupid, we also know how the sun moves.
And although various reasons are given on the last 20 pages why the house cannot go to the east, it is now coming up again… no wonder it comes across as if I’m constantly defending everything, because I do repeat myself constantly and certainly not because I have a screw loose. Some just simply don’t listen.
 

dieJulia

2023-03-08 01:22:41
  • #5
But before we fill another 20 pages with nonsense, we can end this here now. We take the idea with the carport in the west and implement it in 89.
 

ypg

2023-03-08 01:35:16
  • #6
Then just be more careful! It’s your fault. I didn’t mention your real name or group. Once again, a distortion and entanglement of facts from you! Do whatever you want. The nonsense starts where you don’t put the actual problem in the opening post. but that looks different according to your planning and explanation philosophy.
 

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