Floor plan idea collection for single-family house with L-shape and gable roof 160 sqm

I suspect that this is mainly about the 3 gable view? Here is a possible floor plan. The Fantastic 163 V6 from Bien-Zenker:

[ATTACH alt="fantastic 163.jpg"]82125[/ATTACH] In the catalog, it is presented as a city villa with 2 full floors but can certainly also work as a 3 gable house depending on the knee wall. You can find the upper floor on Pinterest.

However, it is not really an L shape. Why are there probably not so many 160 sqm houses with a pronounced "L"? Because someone who can only build 160 sqm does not have the money to pay for this senselessly large roof and this elaborate building structure. I also did not get the impression when reading that things are different with you. And what exactly would be the benefit you could draw from the example?

My better half and I are considering building a house or acquiring a house.
We are still in the very early stages and are currently trying to find out what budget is available to us.
We are still young, I am 25 and she is 22, and we have a net monthly income of about €3,000 in total (she is an apprentice). We pay €800 warm for our 64 sqm new apartment.
We have equity in the range of €25,000-75,000 in prospect - but it is not yet in our account.

That was five years ago, so you are now 30 and 27 years old and probably both fully trained (?) - what have you done in the meantime (only just remembered your account here after such a long time, or have you been reading regularly)? - How are the capital and creditworthiness doing, what total budget have they grown to?

Since I cannot name a concrete example plot and therefore topics like orientation etc. cannot be taken into account.

It is good to openly say that right away, but otherwise very bad.

We are currently trying to find out what we like and what we need.
Whereas there are countless floor plans for bungalows and rectangular single-family houses, I currently cannot find any for my desired house type.
I imagine a single-family house with the following parameters and initially only need sample floor plans for it: L-shape # gable roof # approx. 160 sqm # open kitchen with dining-living area # office and utility room on the ground floor # 3 bedrooms + bathroom upstairs # Is a half attic conversion basically possible for this type of house? This is to become a guest room and back-up room for a third child's room.
[...] The alternative is a Frisian house with a blocky structure; some ideas have already formed, which a general contractor can calculate for us.

The first thing that comes to mind is a song title from my youth: Bernie Paul "oh no no" ;-) *SCNR*
What is such a "sample floor plan" supposed to be good for: picking one from the collection, telling the GC’s draftsman "poke the room for child 3 in there," and then wanting an offer for it?
That’s no good (counterproposal: follow my hint from ). You cannot build a successful dream house search on nothing but fear of a boring building shape, and it is also a highly unsuitable priority. To be able to flexibly convert only part of an attic, you don’t need a floor plan with two wings. If child 3 comes, the most likely scenario is that a previously used room will move upstairs rather than one of the children. Are child 1 and child 2 even there yet?

Katja has already described it quite well: a 160 sqm house is very difficult to integrate economically and energetically into an L shape. The proportions in both legs must be right. And for an expansion reserve, a 2-gable house also works or even better. Starting to plan a house design with its expansion reserve is more like getting on the horse backwards.

The answer that the living area of 160 sqm is probably too small for the desired building volume is something I can best live with. We do not want to build larger either, as we do not need more space (it's not about 10 sqm now, but over 180 sqm is pure waste for us by now).

But I have to speak openly about the following: I asked for X. What you can read between the lines is: Put in more effort, you can't afford it anyway, what have you done all these years in terms of the forum and financially, do you even have children yet?

That has nothing to do with my question.

With sample floor plans, I merely wanted to check whether the whole thing is basically conceivable with 160 sqm. Although I have now received the answer (thanks Katja), the critique until then was quite substantial. I realize that you belong to the established core of this forum (I have been reading regularly for 5 years and must admit that this happens quite often and other (new) users often like to leave immediately because of this.

For all other questions, I would then go to the corresponding subforums and gladly be available there for discussion.

Have a nice Sunday!

There is a rough wind blowing in the forum, it has always been that way here.

But some inquiries / hints are not wrong either. A potential house construction, and thus also the floor plan, is always an overall project and the budget sets the direction. Asking a floor plan question without specifying a budget, but hinting that only the [KFW] increase makes the project feasible, naturally raises questions. People do not address you about it because they want to annoy you, but to potentially draw your attention to things early.

Furthermore, as you probably know if you have been reading along for 5 years, it is repeatedly preached here that a floor plan without a plot is worthless. It makes no sense to think up / look for a dream floor plan and then not find a suitable plot for it. The affordable, perfectly straight, exactly rectangular plots with 0% slope and direct road connection have simply become scarce nowadays. You have to plan the house according to your plot, not the other way around.

There is a rough wind blowing in the forum, it has always been like this here.

But some inquiries / hints are not wrong either. A potential house construction, and thus also the floor plan, is always an overall project and the budget sets the direction. Asking a floor plan question without specifying a budget, but hinting that only the KFW extension makes the project feasible, of course raises questions. People don’t address you about this to annoy you, but to potentially point out things to you early.

Furthermore, it is preached here repeatedly, which you probably know if you have been reading for 5 years, that a floor plan without a plot of land is worthless. It makes no sense to come up with / look for a dream floor plan and then not find a suitable plot for it. Affordable, perfectly rectangular plots with 0% slope and direct street access have simply become scarce nowadays.
You have to plan the house according to your plot, not the other way around.

I can already understand the difference between floor plan examples and dream floor plan, hence also the exact question about examples – to check general feasibility beforehand.